Massive School Shooting at an Elementary School

[HasiraKali]

NRA's response was shocking.

Nahhhtt.

This. Ugh. And wanting to give teachers guns? I don't want a gun.

Let me just say yesterday was fun. There was a threat at the high school across the street saying they were going to come "shoot it up". No substantiated claims though, so they just heightened security all day. It was kind of a stressful day, not knowing if they'd lock us down at any moment. I will say that our school did a good job of keep everyone's spirits up. They played holiday music over the loud speakers so the kids were literally dancing to class, food everywhere, and just a good celebration before winter break.

[Tora]

I'm sorry but giving teachers guns isn't going to work. Taking away guns isn't going to work either. Whats the difference if he walked in with a machete?

[HasiraKali]

Oh I know it won't fix it, but that's what some idiotic people are suggesting.

As far as the machete, that's generally not considered to be as lethal as the weapons used in a shooting. The intent here was clearly to kill as many people as possible. A machete just isn't going to do that.

[Tora]

Well I didn't mean that you were suggesting that. Sorry if I was unclear.

It's just not going to work, but you know if someone did come in with a machete he could still harm, if not kill, a good number of people too. Maybe not as many as a gun, but still a weapon none the less.

[Timon the great]

That's why more people choose to go with a more effective weapon such as a gun. They know it can do more "damage" to a large number of people with ease, then like a machete would. Remember, the bullet doesn't stay where the gun is, when used for it's sole purpose.

[HasiraKali]

It's already ridiculous that many school districts have to have their own police departments just to keep little things from happening. I know our officer is so busy dealing with petty things like stealing that I have no idea how he'd be able to respond to something like an armed gunman.

[Biomac]

These cases always make me wonder why does the USA are still authorizing to wear a weapon... I mean if people can't wear any weapon anymore, these tragedies will highly and clearly decrease and become very rare, won't they?
And even if it is write in the American Constitution that anybody can have a weapon with him/her, why not changing the Constitution then? I don't see anything impossible to do here seriously. And if ever the Constitution can't be changed, just make extremely complicated to have a weapon with you, like in coutries such as Japan or Australia.

[DGFone]

These cases always make me wonder why does the USA are still authorizing to wear a weapon... I mean if people can't wear any weapon anymore, these tragedies will highly and clearly decrease and become very rare, won't they?

Because remember how the USA was formed. The second amendment, at its core, ensures that the least common citizen can fight against a dictator that might take charge of the government. Because when all else fails, and someone wants to oppress you with all their might, the last option is to fight back with the same weapons that the tyrant has.

Just as in the Revolutionary war versus the British. We would have gotten NOTHING if we calmly complained in Parliament.

[Biomac]

Yes, but now times has changed, and the wear of a weapon isn't necessary anymore.

Plus as I said before, a Constitution can be changed, and here is another great occasion to do it.

[DGFone]

Yes, but now times has changed, and the wear of a weapon isn't necessary anymore.

Plus as I said before, a Constitution can be changed, and here is another great occasion to do it.

Some things never change. At the end of the day, you have to leave a back door against tyranny: equal or greater firepower. It was the same then, and the same today: there is no guarantee that something won't cause governments to slip into anarchy or tyranny. And the gun is the only thing you will be able to use to survive if that happens.

Look: Guns are tools, not murder machines. If you really want to kill people, you'll use a home-made bomb or something you know... a bit more lethal. There's a great series made on guns, called Tales of the Gun, and each episode (you can see them on YouTube) starts with this great blurb:

The gun has played a critical role in history. An invention that has been praised and denounced... Served hero and villain alike... And carries with it a moral responsibility.

To better understand the gun is to better understand history.

The problem is not the gun itself, but people who acquire it (often in illegal means for automatic rifles) who lack the moral responsibility to use such a tool.