War on Christmas

Re: War on Christmas

Postby TheLionPrince » December 10th, 2012, 11:08 pm

Woeler wrote:Alright, I see. I already hear the atheists and the secularists being blamed by many Americans.

People who do such things are not true atheists or antitheists or humanists or secularists. They're just idiots. On the other side of the extreme scale you have the religious screaming OMG I IZ BEING PERSECUTED RESPECT MY BELIEFS.

I find it ironic that The US has religiously (Yes very religious!) based laws which prevent people from legally ending their lives when they're terminal, and there is no huge discussion, but when a Christmas tree is removed, that's a big deal. Oh boy is that important... Priorities, anyone...?

Deny terminal cancer patients the right to die with some dignity -> should be tolerated
Make healthcare choices for women which are no government business -> should be tolerated
Deny Gay people the right to mary -> should be tolerated
Naming a Christmas tree a holiday tree -> OMFG SATAN
Removing a Christmas tree -> OMFG BLASPHEMY DISRESPECT HOW DARE YOU, HELL IS WAITING.

Spot the irony? I do.


Okay, I see the "irony". Well, my problem with euthanasia is that 98% of American medical students swear on some form of the Hippocratic Oath. One of the oaths state it is their moral responsibilty for medical doctors to care "for the good of my patients" and "I will give no deadly medicine to any one if asked". Euthanasia contradicts this oath.
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Re: War on Christmas

Postby Carl » December 10th, 2012, 11:20 pm

So if someone is terminal and they are going to die slowly and painfully, it is "for the good of" that patient to be forced to suffer over an extended period of time before they die?
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Re: War on Christmas

Postby TheLionPrince » December 10th, 2012, 11:36 pm

Keep in mind, those are not my words, but statements in the Hippocrath Oath. Those statements are swore by incoming physicians, and like any oath, they are required to abide it. And, it all depends if euthanasia should be considered a murder.

For me, straving someone to death by denying them food and water is cruel and inhumane. You're taking a people's life regardless of whether you want or not.

P.S. This is a Christmas topic. If you want to talk about euthanasia, then, revive the thread below. Try not to go off-topic.
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Re: War on Christmas

Postby DGFone » December 10th, 2012, 11:57 pm

Woeler wrote:I find it ironic that The US has religiously (Yes very religious!) based laws which prevent people from legally ending their lives when they're terminal, and there is no huge discussion, but when a Christmas tree is removed, that's a big deal. Oh boy is that important... Priorities, anyone...?

Deny terminal cancer patients the right to die with some dignity -> should be tolerated
Make healthcare choices for women which are no government business -> should be tolerated
Deny Gay people the right to mary -> should be tolerated
Naming a Christmas tree a holiday tree -> OMFG SATAN
Removing a Christmas tree -> OMFG BLASPHEMY DISRESPECT HOW DARE YOU, HELL IS WAITING.

Spot the irony? I do.


Because the 3rd biggest nation in the world, having a population of 300 million people, and spanning Ocean coast to Ocean Coast, totally acts like the Bible Belt. Very mature. :roll:
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Re: War on Christmas

Postby Carl » December 11th, 2012, 12:00 am

DGFone wrote:Because the 3rd biggest nation in the world, having a population of 300 million people, and spanning Ocean coast to Ocean Coast, totally acts like the Bible Belt. Very mature. :roll:


Obviously not the entire nation acts that way, but if the majority didn't, we wouldn't have these issues. If the majority wasn't so gung-ho religious, no one would be claiming that there was a 'war' on Christmas.
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Re: War on Christmas

Postby TheBlackCatCrossing » December 11th, 2012, 12:42 am

I think this is an issue of political correctness gone crazy.

Removal of the trees or anything remotely Christian during Christmas is because a group of liberals don't wish to offend our Muslim and Jewish neighbors, hence why some cities don't want the Nativity scene in public.

But here is some food for thought. If one of you moved to Saudi Arabia or Israel, do you expect those counties to stop it with Ramadan or Yom Kippur just because you don't abide by that religion?
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