Election Day 2012

[DGFone]

I do find it ironic that someone who promised us freedom and prosperity is doing something completely opposite. There is a reason why America will never pass a European tax-like system:

America is about freedom and individualism. Equality is not freedom.

[Regulus]

And that's why our European brethren will always be politically and ideologically superior to us.

[Woeler]

[quote="Regulus"]And that's why our European brethren will always be politically and ideologically superior to us.[/quote]

[TheRoguePrince]

[Woeler]

[Carl]

[quote="DGFone"]I do find it ironic that someone who promised us freedom and prosperity is doing something completely opposite. There is a reason why America will never pass a European tax-like system:

America is about freedom and individualism. Equality is not freedom.[/quote]
On the contrary; one cannot be free if he is not equal.

[TheRoguePrince]

[Woeler]

[DGFone]

[quote="Woeler1"]
Oh believe me I want to reply. I just have a pact with DGF that I won't talk American politics anymore.[/quote]
I was about to ask you why the hell you posted in this again, seeing as you have no clue how our system works. (I was talking to him on Skype and he made an utter fool of himself when I asked him the simple question of how the US system works).

But back to what I really wanted to say: There are two types of "free" systems.

1. One is a forced equality. This is not exactly free, because the government controls a lot of your life. You pay high taxes, and for the most part, the distribution of wealth is much more equal. However, innovation is somewhat on the lower level, because this system is much more 'stable' -resisting in change. This is why only modern nations can survive in much more communist like states than other self-proclaimed communist nations: they advanced nations have the technology and infrastructure to keep a stable society. Unfortunately, as you can see in Europe right now, should something shake the place up, the entire system tends to unravel before your eyes.

2. Individual freedom. This system is unfair, but gets the most things done. If socialism is the narrow band of colored light, the US system is the entire elctro-magnetic spectrum. It has the good, the bad, and the downright ugly. But like I said before, it gets the most things done. It won't be a well-meaning doctor who will discover the cure for cancer, but a large greedy corporation that wants the wealth and fame that comes with such a major breakthrough. This system is a free-for all, last man for himself. While it is true that here in the US, we do have some socialist systems in place, but most Europeans agree that what we have hardly qualifies. Naturally, this system get ugly all the time, but at the same time, seems to thrive in the unstable.

Both of these have their pros and cons, and what you want to live as should determine where you want to live. If you want to be like everyone else - go to Europe. If you want to be held up to your own responsibly, have the chance to become extremely wealthy, and be aware that you can fail, then a US system is the one to go to.

[SlayerOfLight]

I can already see Romney getting a hart attack out of frustration when he doesn't get elected, after everything he's been through to get that high. lol