Proxies

[DGFone]

Not to mention:

What happened to the fact that these restrictions will only be on when you register? You want to use a proxy in school to post on MLK? That's fine. You simply won't be able to create a new account there.

[WildSimba]

[quote="TheRoguePrince"][quote="WildSimba"]So with your logic we should just ban everyone, just because there was an attack.[/quote]
*facepalm*

You know what? I'm not even gonna respond to that. You aren't a moderator anymore and you don't plan on making any more accounts (so this shouldn't affect you). I'm done trying to convince you.
[/quote]

If you look back a few pages, Moka actually agreed with me on this one, so I'm obviously not the only person who thinks this would be ridiculous. And wow, just because I'm not a mod, you wouldn't listen to me? Sounds unreasonable, I listened to you members when I was a mod, pretty unfair you wouldn't return the favor, just because I'm not authority anymore. I only helped out this forum for nearly 2 years, so of course my opinion doesn't matter at all.

And there are thousands upon thousands of proxy websites out there. It'd be impossible to prevent members from registering from every single one. It's just not a liable goal. This is a forum, the mods and members just need to act together to help stop it when it happens. Members report what they see, the mods do the work. It's not that big of a deal.

[wolfishgirl]

[quote="Woeler1"][quote="Banana"]
YOu know what? Maybe the reason MLK has become such a target for trolls is because of arrogant pricks like YOU. You people explode at every minor troll attack and insist on adding further red tape to the forum and making us look bad. Good job on making the trolls win by feeding them the negative reaction they were looking for!
Why do you continue to insist on me being a duplicate account? until you come up with ANY proof that I am a dup, kindly f**k off. I am so sick of not being taken seriously here because I actually have an opinion. I am only trying to make this forum better for everyone. Also accusing me of being an imposter/troll/duplicate won't help you become a mod quicker [/quote]
Congratulations, you have just revealed yourself.
You being here for just 3 weeks, having 30 posts and knowing my desire to become a mod is enough evidence. There is only a select group of people who know that. You don't know me so either you're a psychic or you are in fact someone who knows me but is hiding his or her identity.

And seriously, you have bananas in your avatar, who would take that seriously anyway?[/quote]

I've been here for a year and didn't know that Woeler wanted to be a mod... hmmm.....

[TheRoguePrince]

[quote="WildSimba"]I don't want it because it would make new members feel unwelcome. Just think, first thing they see on the forum is IF YOU ARE USING A PROXY YOU WILL BE BANNED. Not a very nice message to send to a new member, at all.[/quote]
You know what's also not a nice message? 5 PMs that have giant Nazi images on them. Just saying...

[quote="Regulus"]You may not have looked up the IPs of new members, but I always do.[/quote]
Where were you during the double Nazi attack yesterday?

[WildSimba]

The difference between the 2: one thing that happens every once in a while, and a message that comes up EVERY time a new member registers.

[Regulus]

[quote="WildSimba"]Some internet providers use proxy's as their addresses (such as AOL), so some people automatically have proxies. [/quote]

Would it really not say AOL with the IP is traced? I doubt that, though I don't know for sure.

[quote]People use proxies to to browse at places like school, and whether you find it wrong or not, someone people actually do have some free time at school and like to browse, and post. [/quote]

That is up to the network administrators. If a forum is blocked on a school network, it is blocked for a reason. It was blocked at my high school, and I had plenty of free time to browse MLK, but I never used a proxy to work around that, because I typically follow rules. I can easily access MLK at my community college without a problem.

[quote]Dynamic IP's do come up at Proxies sometimes (which yes, it can usually be recognized as a dynamic IP, but that's not always the case, and a good lot of members here have a dynamic IP for security reasons).[/quote]

I would know, I have a dynamic IP. Most IPs are dynamic. And I've never mistaken a dynamic IP for a proxy. Proxies are usually static IPs anyway.

[quote]And, people hide for different reasons, just because they're using a proxy doesn't mean that they are a duplicate account, or a troll or spammer.[/quote]

If someone registers under a proxy, that's a huge red flag, and I know you know that.

[quote]Some trolls don't even use proxies, I've seen them do it from their normal IP's as well. So with your logic we should just ban everyone, just because there was an attack.[/quote]

You are correct, but if the person doesn't use a proxy, the IPs will match. Even when the IPs match a banned member, that still isn't enough evidence to ban the account, as it is now.

[quote]I don't want it because it would make new members feel unwelcome. Just think, first thing they see on the forum is IF YOU ARE USING A PROXY YOU WILL BE BANNED. [/quote]

Where did it say we were going to warn all new members not to use a proxy?

[quote]I'm saying it shouldn't be a requirement, because it proves nothing in the first place. [/quote]

Honestly, an IP match (depending on the conditions, and not necessarily a proxy) is the most solid proof there is. It's easy to pretend to be someone else. It's much more difficult to hack into someone's computer to make it look like you are that person sending the data.

[wolfishgirl]

I also don't get why this thing is so bad?
I have not a tech geek at all. My idea of fixing my laptop is 1: shut it down and restart. 2: go see if tech guy is there and 3: throw it out the window.
So i'm unbiased with this, and honestly, this site was blocked at my school for about 2 weeks. I wrote a letter to the security place and told them to unblock it, which they kindly did. So using a proxy at school is just BS. I get how making it so u can't register under a proxy is good, but what if say, I became a troller on here and was banned. Then someone else at my school wanted to register and hey the IP adress would be the same as mine. Would this then mean that they wouldn't let that person register?

[Regulus]

^ if you are IP banned, yes. But, that person could easily go home and register a new account.

[WildSimba]

[quote="Regulus"]^ if you are IP banned, yes. But, that person could easily go home and register a new account.[/quote]

If they have a computer at home. Some people don't. (though yes, most people do these days. lol)

[wolfishgirl]

Actually most of the kids at my school use their school laptops at home, which go through the school server.