Brainstorming

[Noah]

We might not be able to say F***. But what about fuk, or fuq? Or WTF? Frak? Frick? Eff you? What about substituting it with "foxtrot uniform charlie kilo?"

I think if you self-censor, then it's fine. Kids won't know what F--- is.

[Ufasimba]

I think it's a good idea to hold the line against hard swearing. It doesn't really do any good having it, and can do a lot of damage atmosphere wise. So my opinion is hard swear words should be prohibited and advise members to use lesser ones sparingly. The hard words are generally the ones that have explicit sexual meanings, which is another reason to keep them out of the conversations on a all age-group forum.

Also, if you ban use of certain words you can also state that includes disguised versions of the word.

Btw, I was curious if there was a specific word to describe a 'disguised word', a practice that has become common on the internet to get around filters. I couldn't find any in a short search. So... being a bit of a word-geek I will try to make up my own.

Camocuss ?

Pretty lame I must say myself.

[FlipMode]

We might not be able to say F***. But what about fuk, or fuq? Or WTF? Frak? Frick? Eff you? What about substituting it with "foxtrot uniform charlie kilo?"

I think if you self-censor, then it's fine. Kids won't know what F--- is.

Meh then you might as well just not allow it at all, tbh I can live without being able to swear on this forum lol, it's really being made out to be a bigger deal than it is (as is the case on here almost every time).
Nah let's not beat around the bush with silly ifs and maybes, either allow it or do not.
I personally think it should be allowed, obviously there is mixed opinions on it but whatever happens, you can't please everyone so tbh might as well just leave it.
The rules don't need changing, it's the attitude of the staff toward the rules that do (inb4 excuses, you know if this applies to you or not and it's not all of you).

[Azdgari]

Meh then you might as well just not allow it at all, tbh I can live without being able to swear on this forum lol, it's really being made out to be a bigger deal than it is (as is the case on here almost every time).
Nah let's not beat around the bush with silly ifs and maybes, either allow it or do not.
I personally think it should be allowed, obviously there is mixed opinions on it but whatever happens, you can't please everyone so tbh might as well just leave it.
The rules don't need changing, it's the attitude of the staff and members toward the rules that do (inb4 excuses, you know if this applies to you or not and it's not all of you).

God, Fip to the rescue. Why are people fighting so hard to be able to swear? Nobody responded my earlier post: can we seriously not communicate or make a joke without using crude language? There's a time and place for everything. If you guys heard things my friends and I say to each other in the dorm you would probably throw up. But this is a public forum for The Lion King, and there's just no need to drop bad language in my opinion.

[Regulus]

But this is a public forum for The Lion King, and there's just no need to drop bad language in my opinion.

You are correct. But, at some point, offensive language is inevitably going to be used. What happens then? That is what this discussion is about.

[Azdgari]

...Censor it and tell them not to do it again? Does it need to be more complicated than that?

[Regulus]

Whoa, take it easy there. You could hurt someone being rational like that.

[Azdgari]

[Moka]

From the sound of it a lot of our rules are fine to people. It's just how we pass out warnings and punishment that bothers some people. We'll deal with that part later. This topic is for discussing the rules.

We already have a filter (that can be disabled in the UCP) for some heavy swear words, but it doesn't catch everything. People are suggesting we put out a huge list of swear worlds that are and aren't allowed. Not only is this nearly impossible to catalog and classify every swear word, but if we apply the same level of detail to this rule as the others, we'll end up with an entire 30-page manual of exactly how to behave and what not to do. This is not the direction I want to go with the rules. We should be making things more personal and be removing the red tape, not adding more.

If you have the slightest inkling that you shouldn't use a certain swear word, why use it at all? Despite what Patrick says about them, they are not "sentence enhancers." Still, we need a rule against it. The warnings and punishment needs to change though. Instead of banning someone for a week, mods should edit out the swear word and PM that member asking them not to swear.

[DGFone]

I looked, and the swear word filter is enabled on by default, which is good. But this makes me wonder how good it is, seeing as how much of an issue swearing is creating. I know that no automatic system is 100% foolproof, but it sometimes felt like the filter never even worked.

I would like to know which words do get filtered, just to get the general idea. I would appreciate it if a mod would PM or email me the list of words filtered, (obviously, posting them here would be a bad idea), so that I can see if the thing works at all or not. I hope that this at least doesn't qualify as 'backseat modding'.

So as for what Moka said: I don't think we should be adding any more rules. If the goal in the end is to make every case proper, meaning with mod involvement, then the less rules the better. If the mods feel like a post used a swear word to an extreme point, it really should go down to editing and a PM. Preferably have the member edit the post themselves.