KONY 2012

Re: KONY 2012

Postby FlipMode » March 9th, 2012, 1:46 am

^ I don't really see the point there.
First of all "Say they will be safe in future", this stuff has been on the decline for ages, it actually barely ever happens any more and not in Uganda since Kony has not set foot there for at least six years. Dude they are at FAR greater risk of dying from disease, starvation and poverty than they EVER will be from the LRA... The Ugandan army and 100 USA troops with complete high tech that easily thwarts the LRA have ensured that.
The LRA and Kony are small fry, why do people think that every country under the ICC have not made ANY effort to bring him down? They could, bt there are reasons why not.

Not to mention the Invisible Children group itself "The non-profit has come in for some criticism for channeling a majority of their raised funds -- some 70% or more according to some accounts -- to salaries, travel expenses and filmmaking, with charity watchdog Charity Navigator giving the group a low two-star rating for lack of financial accountability." That is pretty crap, they should be putting the money to their CAUSE not bloody staff wages.

This crap happens in other countries too btw, the one in Uganda is barely existent. I would much rather see a war to bring down the Mexican drug cartels for instance, than some dude.
There are worse thing in Uganda than this, the country is screwed! You are by law, KILLED for homosexuality there....
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Re: KONY 2012

Postby Azdgari » March 12th, 2012, 3:27 pm

I like the awareness, but I know there's some sketchiness about that organization and what it does with the money it makes, and also yeah, where we get the forces from is sketchy. The US isn't in a great position internationally to send troops anywhere anyway, and I doubt anybody else will step up and do anything. Fip's got some great points too. Sad as it is, there are bigger fish to fry in the world. However, it's not like this is 'distracting' from those. I'd rather have people up in arms about Kony than about nothing at all. Some progress is better than no progress.


THE ICC: RECOGNIZING PROBLEMS AND DOING NOTHING ABOUT THEM SINCE FOREVER!

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'On 14 October 2011, Rush Limbaugh, a political commentator, originally questioned the U.S. move against the LRA on the grounds that "Lord's Resistance Army are Christians. They are fighting the Muslims in Sudan. And Obama has sent troops, United States troops to remove them from the battlefield, which means kill them." "So that’s a new war, a hundred troops to wipe out Christians in Sudan, Uganda." Later, Limbaugh stated that he would research the group as he was made aware of accusations of their atrocities.[75] The show's written transcript was posted on his website under the title "Obama Invades Uganda, Targets Christians".'

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Re: KONY 2012

Postby FlipMode » March 16th, 2012, 11:35 pm

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Re: KONY 2012

Postby cleargreenwater » March 17th, 2012, 12:03 am

^ Must be all that money he's siphoning off of donations.
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Re: KONY 2012

Postby emily123 » March 17th, 2012, 12:28 am

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Re: KONY 2012

Postby FlipMode » March 17th, 2012, 1:08 am

Were you talking to me? I would say its quite relevant that the man behind this project has been arrested for doing something incredibly stupid

Edit - and BTW its not "your" topic.
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Re: KONY 2012

Postby Arani » March 17th, 2012, 1:15 am

Alright guys, calm down.

I watched it, and I read about the dude getting arrested... in all honesty I believe that Kony needs to be stopped, but I don't think the government is smart enough is willing to go do something about it that will help.

And quite frankly... I laughed when I heard that the guy behind the project got taken in. xD
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Re: KONY 2012

Postby emily123 » March 17th, 2012, 1:20 am

FlipMode wrote:Were you talking to me? I would say its quite relevant that the man behind this project has been arrested for doing something incredibly stupid

Edit - and BTW its not "your" topic.


No, no, Scarred was going around posting about a "fake" member and not to trust them. xD I'm glad the post is now deleted.
And as the OP of this topic it technically is mine. IMO
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Re: KONY 2012

Postby FlipMode » March 17th, 2012, 1:26 am

Ooops, sorry I saw it and by the time I saw your post, the spam was deleted... No worries? ^^
For future reference though, this is exactly why mods say not to reply to spam posts / trolls.

But yeah, sorry for that misunderstanding, Emily.
So to get this back on topic, after reading about all the other posts, stories, opinions etc... What do you think of the KONY 2012 thing now? Because my viewpoints change almost every time I learn something new about Uganda =D
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Re: KONY 2012

Postby emily123 » March 17th, 2012, 1:43 am

It's alright. ^^ Perfectly understandable.

For my viewpoint since I haven't replied in here since I saw the video is more of an "in the grey / middle of sides" opinion now. I think it's an excellent cause and it's very inspirational. The main point of KONY 2012 is to spread awareness of Kony, and it worked. It is true that Invisible Children isn't a good organization and has a pretty bad rap, but as for the purpose overall about Kony it's a good message. Since the "experiment" worked so many people have shown that when we know we have a voice we can do big things. And it's true: with the technology and social networks we have today we can spread so much word and get to power. It's better than petitions almost, though petitions are a good way of having a voice as well. Since we've seen how fast and far word can spread with people this could be an excellent sign for future causes, problems, and campaigns. Not everyone has to spend money (I haven't spent a thing to IC) but they can share what's going on to those who can afford to give. Kony's even made it to media within days, which is incredible! So many people have complained about "he's been going at this for 26 years, why start now" but that's the thing: why not? Why shouldn't we start now? It's better than never.
The reason I'm not all for this IS the fact that IC isn't a good charity holder rather than others. Not all charities are golden and wonderful but IC has more of a bad rap than others, and for true reasons. There should be far more money going to the cause rather than to videos and travel expenses. Uganda can do fine without so many visits from them and they can post blogs on the internet of what's going on rather than make video after video. (I was subscribed to Invisible Children on YouTube to be notified via e-mail on new videos and there was AT LEAST one every day, which got me to the point where I was so annoyed that I unsubscribed.) "Cover the Night" is also a very potentially dangerous kind of protesting that threatens vandalism, though despite that I'm joining in it anyway. I do still support spreading awareness.
So given this, I'm kind of liberal about it but at the same time find KONY 2012 positive and important. It's just the rest of Invisible Children that's really suspicious and isn't very good.
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