How many cubs does Simba have?

[SnowyCheetah]

As well as things like all the lions having the ability to speak... things in TLK are hardly meant to be totally scientifically or factually accurate.

[Jiirani]

I think PK is right there x3 I mean hair tufts would grow in at different rates depending on the lion right? x3
Everything doesn't have to be correct, i is just a movie x3

and lol at SnowyCheeta's siggy xD I really shouldn't have started that 'I support Kopa as Canon' thing rofl x3

[PrincessKiara]

[quote="SnowyCheetah"]As well as things like all the lions having the ability to speak... things in TLK are hardly meant to be totally scientifically or factually accurate.[/quote]

Exactly.

[quote="Jiirani"]I think PK is right there x3 I mean hair tufts would grow in at different rates depending on the lion right? x3
Everything doesn't have to be correct, i is just a movie x3

and lol at SnowyCheeta's siggy xD I really shouldn't have started that 'I support Kopa as Canon' thing rofl x3[/quote]

Thank you. lol I took my button down because there seemed to be so much drama around it.

[Jiirani]

[quote="PrincessKiara"]and lol at SnowyCheeta's siggy xD I really shouldn't have started that 'I support Kopa as Canon' thing rofl x3[/quote]

Thank you. lol I took my button down because there seemed to be so much drama around it. [/quote]

That was probably the best thing to do lol xD People can get so angry for no reason at all x3 (I hope no-one takes offense to that O.O)

[SuperBabySimba]

[quote="SnowyCheetah"]So in other words, once he supports your argument, he becomes relevant and then irrelevant again when he no longer does.[/quote]

No, Kopa is relevant to this discussion through the other people's opinions/arguments. Hence, I wouldn't have brought Kopa into my argument if no one else had brought him up first. I would've just pointed out the timeline making older siblings in general, impossible. Thus, he's relevant because he exists in this discussion, and not because he supports my own argument.

[quote="Jiirani"]Everything doesn't have to be correct, i is just a movie x3[/quote]

Basically you're right, but in this case, I'd say everything has to be thought of in realistic terms, even though it's just a movie. Why? Because both film's makers made a big deal about how they studied lions and all the animals during the production. As in they obviously want us to learn and know about realistic biology and interpret their designs and timelines accoording to it. Hm?

[quote="SnowyCheetah"]As well as things like all the lions having the ability to speak... things in TLK are hardly meant to be totally scientifically or factually accurate.[/quote]

They talk because they have to in order for it to become humane and toldable story.

[quote="Jiirani"]I think PK is right there x3 I mean hair tufts would grow in at different rates depending on the lion right? x3[/quote]

Valid point but let's not forget that people are trying to turn Fluffy into Kopa while Kovu's and Fluffy's age difference would be around a year, which just is too much even for individual growth rates, seeing to that Kovu and Kopa look exactly the same age.

Two or three, four months tops, perhaps would yet pass realistically and make it posisble for them to have exactly the same size tuft if we consider individual rates. But a year? Hell no. And why it would have to be a year is becausee there is no way Pridelands could've recovered that much in just a few months. It would take seasons. And even if we pretend it was possible, Nala would've carried the child those three to four months from Kovu's birth, and then to that should be added many months of growth which would still make Kovu too much older for them to look the same age.

[quote="PrincessKiara"]SBS: I know the writers and animators studied lions when making TLK and SP.. But to be perfectly honest, I think they took certain artistic liberties. Such as giving Kopa a head tuft to give him a more individual look compared to Cub Simba. Just because Kopa and Kovu have head tufts doesn`t HAVE to mean that they are at a certain age in the movies/books.

Just a thought.[/quote]

Well, I see your point but the biological development of lions apply to the design the film makers made, as long as the fact that they studied lions is all we know and they even put weight on it in their commentaries and making-of documents.

As for Kopa's creators who aren't known to have studied lions and your point may be correct, the head tuft still makes Kopa around 2 years old seeing to the realistic biology which is all we know to apply for the film's story. As in, if Kopa was added into the film's story, he would turn into being the same age as Kovu, no matter why Kopa had the head tuft in the first place.

[Jiirani]

[quote="SuperBabySimba"]
[quote="Jiirani"]Everything doesn't have to be correct, i is just a movie x3[/quote]

Basically you're right, but in this case, I'd say everything has to be thought of in realistic terms, even though it's just a movie. Why? Because both film's makers made a big deal about how they studied lions and all the animals during the production. As in they obviously want us to learn and know about realistic biology and interpret their designs and timelines accoording to it. Hm?[/quote]

Actually, when you think about it logically, they did say they didn't think TLK would be as popular as it is, they didn't even think anyone would like it. So they didn't think anyone would look into it this much, as to the timeline and how realistic everything is. Simba's Pride was definatly not as realistic as TLK was, and even then TLK wasn't very realistic in it's own little ways. I don't think the film makers would expect us to argue over suck meager things

[quote="Jiirani"]I think PK is right there x3 I mean hair tufts would grow in at different rates depending on the lion right? x3[/quote]

Valid point but let's not forget that people are trying to turn Fluffy into Kopa while Kovu's and Fluffy's age difference would be around a year, which just is too much even for individual growth rates, seeing to that Kovu and Kopa look exactly the same age.

Two or three, four months tops, perhaps would yet pass realistically and make it posisble for them to have exactly the same size tuft if we consider individual rates. But a year? Hell no. And why it would have to be a year is becausee there is no way Pridelands could've recovered that much in just a few months. It would take seasons. And even if we pretend it was possible, Nala would've carried the child those three to four months from Kovu's birth, and then to that should be added many months of growth which would still make Kovu too much older for them to look the same age.[/quote]

What? O3O. I'm confused lol, your saying that Kopa is older than Kovu so they shouldn't have the same size of hair tufts? Is that what your saying? Sorry, I'm confused xDD;

[SnowyCheetah]

[quote="SuperBabySimba"][quote="SnowyCheetah"]So in other words, once he supports your argument, he becomes relevant and then irrelevant again when he no longer does.[/quote]

No, Kopa is relevant to this discussion through the other people's opinions/arguments. Hence, I wouldn't have brought Kopa into my argument if no one else had brought him up first. I would've just pointed out the timeline making older siblings in general, impossible. Thus, he's relevant because he exists in this discussion, and not because he supports my own argument.

[quote="Jiirani"]Everything doesn't have to be correct, i is just a movie x3[/quote]

Basically you're right, but in this case, I'd say everything has to be thought of in realistic terms, even though it's just a movie. Why? Because both film's makers made a big deal about how they studied lions and all the animals during the production. As in they obviously want us to learn and know about realistic biology and interpret their designs and timelines accoording to it. Hm?

[quote="SnowyCheetah"]As well as things like all the lions having the ability to speak... things in TLK are hardly meant to be totally scientifically or factually accurate.[/quote]

They talk because they have to in order for it to become humane and toldable story.

[quote="Jiirani"]I think PK is right there x3 I mean hair tufts would grow in at different rates depending on the lion right? x3[/quote]

Valid point but let's not forget that people are trying to turn Fluffy into Kopa while Kovu's and Fluffy's age difference would be around a year, which just is too much even for individual growth rates, seeing to that Kovu and Kopa look exactly the same age.

Two or three, four months tops, perhaps would yet pass realistically and make it posisble for them to have exactly the same size tuft if we consider individual rates. But a year? Hell no. And why it would have to be a year is becausee there is no way Pridelands could've recovered that much in just a few months. It would take seasons. And even if we pretend it was possible, Nala would've carried the child those three to four months from Kovu's birth, and then to that should be added many months of growth which would still make Kovu too much older for them to look the same age.

[quote="PrincessKiara"]SBS: I know the writers and animators studied lions when making TLK and SP.. But to be perfectly honest, I think they took certain artistic liberties. Such as giving Kopa a head tuft to give him a more individual look compared to Cub Simba. Just because Kopa and Kovu have head tufts doesn`t HAVE to mean that they are at a certain age in the movies/books.

Just a thought.[/quote]

Well, I see your point but the biological development of lions apply to the design the film makers made, as long as the fact that they studied lions is all we know and they even put weight on it in their commentaries and making-of documents.

As for Kopa's creators who aren't known to have studied lions and your point may be correct, the head tuft still makes Kopa around 2 years old seeing to the realistic biology which is all we know to apply for the film's story. As in, if Kopa was added into the film's story, he would turn into being the same age as Kovu, no matter why Kopa had the head tuft in the first place.[/quote]

Uhm... I'm terribly sorry, but that post is twisted, self-contradicting and generally not making sense in so many ways...

[Jiirani]

I agree with SC o3o

[atouchofgrace]

[quote="Jiirani"]Is it not just that he only has the one cub?
In the movie [SP] it's Kiara
In the books [6NA] it's Kopa
and at the end of the first movie [TLK] it's Fluffy.

They just had one cub altogether though, just three different versions through different pairs of eyes. Does that make sense?[/quote]

^^ THIS.
You know, you have the original story.
Different people will continue it in different ways. Simple as that.
There are more important and relevant things to say about the movie.

Simba and Nala need birth control.

[FlipMode]

He has one cub and that is Kiara. Unless the film lied to me, that is.