Shadowfax wrote:^ They might not have a choice? And lol, toddlers are a law un to themselves

They don't understand quiet, ha.
I admit I'm not an expert in child raising or anything and understand that dealing with a child is very difficult but I know I'd try to make sure if anyone else can keep my child before doing that, it happened yesterday while I was waiting at an office and it was
really distracting.

Plus seen too many parents recently with incredibly noisy children with absolutely no discipline that justify their inaction by saying "that's just how kids are, they'll grow out of it". Cue their children making troublesome teenagers and adults because they never had consequences for their wrongs. It's just lazy when we live in an age where there's so,
so many sources on how to humanely discipline a child both from the internet, books and from trained professionals. I understand that's likely impossible for very very young children but after a certain age it's just bad to not even try deal with the behaviour. I feel like we've left the period where child abuse was considered "discipline" only to enter a period where child neglect is considered "good parenting", both being incredibly unhealthy towards child development in different ways with dangerous consequences for society as a whole.
Okay this just turned into a vent, it's just an observation I've made from people IRL recently that's been really concerning.