Proxies

[KentuckyWildcat]

Trolling has existed for as long as internet forums themselves have been around. Nobody yet has found a way to completely prevent it. Given that I come here at least every couple of days and haven't actually seen any of these spamming attacks in progress, I think the staff is doing an excellent job at dealing with it. I agree that there's no need to add more red tape.

[Woeler]

[quote="Banana"]
1. its obvious to ANYONE that you want to be mod because you sure act like you're superior to everyone all the time, when your really just an asshole with an inflated ego[/quote]
I prefer the term ''intelligent'', ''superior'' sounds so negative. I prefer rational, sober discussion over angry, ignorant comments. I'm gonna leave here. Your short temper might get me in a debating mood and we don't want that to happen. I'd rather keep my record clean. I've given my statements, arguments and support.

[WildSimba]

[quote="TheRoguePrince"][quote="Banana"]
YOu know what? Maybe the reason MLK has become such a target for trolls is because of arrogant pricks like YOU. You people explode at every minor troll attack and insist on adding further red tape to the forum and making us look bad. Good job on making the trolls win by feeding them the negative reaction they were looking for!
Why do you continue to insist on me being a duplicate account? until you come up with ANY proof that I am a dup, kindly f**k off. I am so sick of not being taken seriously here because I actually have an opinion. I am only trying to make this forum better for everyone. Also accusing me of being an imposter/troll/duplicate won't help you become a mod quicker [/quote]
That is the most suspicious "I've been here longer" post I have ever seen. Congrats.

[quote="Wildsimba"]
people often use proxies for reasons other than trolling[/quote]
Name one.

@Wildsimba I don't see what the big deal is. How long does it take to check if it's a dup, when the mods already are going to be there verifying the post. You act like you don't want dups and spammers to get caught -.-[/quote]

Wow, now you're accusing me. I just said I don't think it's necessary to add more red tape across the forum. You do have to remember I was a mod here no less than a week ago and I would know about this stuff. I know the exact process in order to approve/disapprove posts, and it can already be a long process if the person turns out to be a spammer. Every new member could easily look suspicious because they are new. There's no good reason to just ban them right out, unless there's absolute proof towards it. If they're caught, then fine, but there's no reason for the mods to start digging for information from every single new member on the forum, that would just be silly.

[TheRoguePrince]

[quote="WildSimba"]I just said I don't think it's necessary to add more red tape across the forum.[/quote]
You keep saying that, but I don't know where you are getting it. Here's the difference it would make:

1. When mods approve posts, they check the IP, and see if it's a proxy account. That's all

2. Members cannot use a proxy to register

A minor change for members, and a minor change in procedure for moderators. When MLK suffers two Nazi attacks in one day, that's not asking for much.


And you didn't answer my question for legit reasons people need a proxy on this site.

[Regulus]

[quote="TheRoguePrince"]@Wildsimba I don't see what the big deal is. How long does it take to check if it's a dup, when the mods already are going to be there verifying the post.[/quote]

You know how long it takes? Seconds. It's the easiest thing we can do, aside from stopping the count to 35.

[quote="WildSimba"]If they're caught, then fine, but there's no reason for the mods to start digging for information from every single new member on the forum, that would just be silly.[/quote]

You may not have looked up the IPs of new members, but I always do. And with the amount of dupes and troll attacks we've had recently, it is in no way unjustified.

TRP is right. It's only a very, very, small change. And I doubt even if the new procedure were to be implemented it would change much at all.

[DGFone]

[quote="TheRoguePrince"]2. Members cannot use a proxy to register
[/quote]

This I can agree with. You can wait until you come home if you want to register a legitimate account, and if you absolutely have to use a proxy to access MLK during school or some other place that blocks it, as long as you are already registered, you will still be able to use a proxy to get onto MLK with a legitimate account. Just don't expect to be able to register a new account under a proxy.

[TheRoguePrince]

^Thank You

[quote="WildSimba"]Wow, now you're accusing me[/quote]
I'm sorry if I come across as that, but well, when you are against this plan when you aren't even a mod anymore. It makes me wonder why you don't want this -.-

[WildSimba]

[quote="TheRoguePrince"][quote="WildSimba"]I just said I don't think it's necessary to add more red tape across the forum.[/quote]
You keep saying that, but I don't know where you are getting it. Here's the difference it would make:

1. When mods approve posts, they check the IP, and see if it's a proxy account. That's all

2. Members cannot use a proxy to register

A minor change for members, and a minor change in procedure for moderators. When MLK suffers two Nazi attacks in one day, that's not asking for much.


And you didn't answer my question for legit reasons people need a proxy on this site.[/quote]

Some internet providers use proxy's as their addresses (such as AOL), so some people automatically have proxies. People use proxies to to browse at places like school, and whether you find it wrong or not, someone people actually do have some free time at school and like to browse, and post. Dynamic IP's do come up at Proxies sometimes (which yes, it can usually be recognized as a dynamic IP, but that's not always the case, and a good lot of members here have a dynamic IP for security reasons). And, people hide for different reasons, just because they're using a proxy doesn't mean that they are a duplicate account, or a troll or spammer. Some trolls don't even use proxies, I've seen them do it from their normal IP's as well. So with your logic we should just ban everyone, just because there was an attack.

I don't want it because it would make new members feel unwelcome. Just think, first thing they see on the forum is IF YOU ARE USING A PROXY YOU WILL BE BANNED. Not a very nice message to send to a new member, at all. And I usually checked IP's too, Regulus, I'm not saying to NOT do it. I'm saying it shouldn't be a requirement, because it proves nothing in the first place. If a member is suspicious, they'll show themselves eventually anyways. These attacks happen, you as a staff member are supposed to just do your job and act accordingly. It's good to prevent, but if you act too boldly, it'll scare people off.

[TheRoguePrince]

[quote="WildSimba"]So with your logic we should just ban everyone, just because there was an attack.[/quote]
*facepalm*

You know what? I'm not even gonna respond to that. You aren't a moderator anymore and you don't plan on making any more accounts (so this shouldn't affect you). I'm done trying to convince you.

[Woeler]

[quote="WildSimba"]Dynamic IP's do come up at Proxies sometimes (which yes, it can usually be recognized as a dynamic IP, but that's not always the case, and a good lot of members here have a dynamic IP for security reasons).[/quote]
Actually, they can always be recognized...