Should society become secular?

[UncoordinatedPisces]

I voted secular. Religion has caused too many wars, but people should be able to have their faith no matter what. We should respect one another's religion, but I'm afraid that's just not how the world works...

[KopsTheTerminator]

what do YOU think I mean with informing other people? confess their faith to others of course, just as non-believers have the right to confess their lack of faith to believers. and I'm only using christianity here as an example because it's the biggest relegion. where did I say christians should get ''special treatment''?

My bad, I thought you meant that door knocking mentioned earlier, to which I completely disagree with. And you gotta admit that was really misleading... Why say "Christians" when you're talking about religion in general? Biggest religion or not, not everyone is going to think of religion in general when you specifically say "Christians"...

[SlayerOfLight]

what do YOU think I mean with informing other people? confess their faith to others of course, just as non-believers have the right to confess their lack of faith to believers. and I'm only using christianity here as an example because it's the biggest relegion. where did I say christians should get ''special treatment''?

My bad, I thought you meant that door knocking mentioned earlier, to which I completely disagree with. And you gotta admit that was really misleading... Why say "Christians" when you're talking about religion in general? Biggest religion or not, not everyone is going to think of religion in general when you specifically say "Christians"...

I said christians because when we talk about relegion, we generally refer to christians mostly because it's the most common and basic world-relegion. but what exactly did you ment with ''door knocking''? sorry, haven't read every post here if I missed something.

[KopsTheTerminator]

As in having someone knock at your door and try to convert you into their religion.

[Noah]

^Door knockers refer to Jehovah's Witnesses, and some other groups, that basically go door to door advertising about their belief system. They seem to think that's the best way to convert people. -.-

[KopsTheTerminator]

Which is in fact the worst way possible... It's just plain annoying and it likely hasn't been helpful ever. Irritating someone makes it less likely to actually make him believe in what you're saying.

[Regulus]

I just think it's funny that a lot of people believe everyone else should have the same beliefs. Isn't religion actually supposed to promote tolerance?

[SlayerOfLight]

I agree, door knocking can be quite annoying, especially by jehova's witnesses. I've had them knocking on my door perhaps a few times I dunno, but I didn't open the door. even though I'm a christian, those arrogant jehova witnesses still think I'm going to ''hell'' because I don't keep their man-made doctrines. I don't even refer to them as ''christians'' concidering they made up their own things which got nothing to do with the bible and christianity at all.

[SlayerOfLight]

I agree, door knocking can be quite annoying, especially by jehova's witnesses. I've had them knocking on my door perhaps a few times I dunno, but I didn't open the door. even though I'm a christian, those arrogant jehova witnesses still think I'm going to ''hell'' because I don't keep their man-made doctrines. I don't even refer to them as ''christians'' concidering they made up their own things which got nothing to do with the bible and christianity at all.

As jehova is based on christianity, so is christianity based on judaïsm if I'm not mistaken. This also makes all the different branches confusing. As far as I know the Toran was first and the Bible is based on that and then the Qu'ran was based on the bible.

Back to the secular thing. It would be more than needed that there are a set of rules EVERYBODY abides. Neutral rules.

jehova's witnesses aren't really christians, even if they look like so. they lie about many things, and made up stuff that isn't even found in the bible, such as jesus being nailed to a ''stake'' instead of a cross.
christianity isn't really based on judaism, but but more of an upgrade from judaism, as christians acknowledge Jesus Christ as the prophecied messias from the torah while jews do not and still rely on their ancient traditions to be saved. however, there are jews who acknowledge jesus christ as the messias, those are called ''messianic jews''. as for the quran, it's not based on christianity, it's more of an anti-christian relegion as it tells not to be ''friends'' with jews and christians, and that jesus didn't died on the cross. quite complicated, all of this.

and I agree about the rules-thing you said.

[SlayerOfLight]

@woeler

well, it is a fact jehova's witnesses are a cult, rather then a christian group. why are they not christian? because they deny many christian doctrines. for example, they rather believe Jesus is a ''lesser'' God under Jehova, while Jesus and Jehova are óne God according to the bible and christianity. they also claim Jesus christ is some sort of ''angel'', while the bible says otherwise. they even say Jesus is NOT worthy of prayer. and the most disturbing thing, they say Jesus Christ resurrected as ''michael the archangel'' after he rose from the death when being crucified. none of their stuff is found in the bible, and even Jesus himself said according to the bible that not everyone who calls him ''lord'' will enter the kindom of heaven.

but the question was not what makes islam wrong and christianity right. I didn't even say that in my previous statement (I'd be a fool if I did, because it could result in me getting a warning or something) all I said, was that the islam/quran attacks christianity and judaism.