People gasp at Rafiki's age, but...

Re: People gasp at Rafiki's age, but...

Postby cleargreenwater » May 9th, 2013, 1:49 am

[quote="Simbaist"]My real concern is Timon, who seems to bean adult in TLK. He is probably 8-10 years older in the end of TLK2:SP. That seems unrealistic since meerkats only have a life span of 6-7 years in the wild.[/quote]

Yet one more reason Simba should've had Zazu watching Kiara instead of Timon & Pumbaa :madman:



I think another thing to have in mind, too, when trying to make sense of & considering the hows and whys of aging in the Lion King films, is that there's a difference between average ages in the wild and total possible lifespan in captivity. For example, one hyena in the wild noted for longevity in the field data of Michigan State University researchers, who have been continuously studying clans in the Masai Mara for going on 3 decades, lived to about 18.5 years (18 and some months over half, and her daughter nearly matched her, some hardy genes there!) with 15-16 or so the more common old age death. Meanwhile, just last year, Brownie, the last remaining hyena used as a reference by Disney animators FOR drawing The Lion King, died peacefully in her sleep at the Sacremento Zoo at an absolutely remarkable twenty-eight years old, an all-around amazing run :salute:

Yes, the events of TLK take place in a world vacant of humans, but it's also an idealized/utopian wilderness sans parasites where termites are the biggest pests an animal is inconvienced by, and when you take average lifespans in captivity into consideration, the playing field smooths itself out quite a bit. A minty-fresh young adult Timon at one year old could then be looking forward to a solid 11-12 or so more years ahead of him, plenty of time to watch Kovu & Kiara get hitched, especially considering I doubt Kiara's ever much more than a teenager in SP.
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Re: People gasp at Rafiki's age, but...

Postby Regulus » May 9th, 2013, 1:57 am

In my interpretation, Timon and Pumbaa are comic relief characters, and therefore they don't have to abide by the laws of nature, which include aging. If you think about it, its easier to just discard everything they think/say/do completely, so that everything else makes more sense.

[quote="cleargreenwater"]Yes, the events of TLK take place in a world vacant of humans, but it's also an idealized/utopian wilderness sans parasites where termites are the biggest pests an animal is inconvienced by, and when you take average lifespans in captivity into consideration, the playing field smooths itself out quite a bit.[/quote]

This is kinda off-topic, but I have to wonder if an ecosystem could even thrive without parasites and microbial diseases. Aren't bacterium part of the circle of life too?
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Re: People gasp at Rafiki's age, but...

Postby Dark Huntress » May 9th, 2013, 2:36 am

[quote="Regulus"]In my interpretation, Timon and Pumbaa are comic relief characters, and therefore they don't have to abide by the laws of nature, which include aging.[/quote]

The whole thing is a cartoon, and, to an extent, comic relief. I don't think any of it is subject to the laws of age. It is for entertainment, for crying out loud!
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Re: People gasp at Rafiki's age, but...

Postby Regulus » May 9th, 2013, 2:49 am

You don't find analyzing your entertainment to be entertaining?
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Re: People gasp at Rafiki's age, but...

Postby cleargreenwater » May 9th, 2013, 2:53 am

[quote="Regulus"]This is kinda off-topic, but I have to wonder if an ecosystem could even thrive without parasites and microbial diseases. Aren't bacterium part of the circle of life too?[/quote]

It's in their contracts with Disney, bacteria are to remain in their respective sanctioned niches such as closed-system intestines until such a time as an animal completely dies. At which point, commence circle-ing :lol:

Hey, I'm just trying to pull a little for Timon here, Pumbaa wouldn't have a problem, he's right up there with lions & hyenas. After all, if you go by TLKoB Banzai had worms so it's already not a completely canon scenario :p


Although of course the easiest answer is, THEY ALL GO BY HUMAN AGING.

And Rafiki promptly disintigrates. :-o

Although Maggie Smith totally gives me hope he wouldn't, that woman's been old as long as I've been alive :lol:
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