Hyena March.

Re: Hyena March.

Postby Woeler » January 10th, 2013, 8:10 pm

If the scene refers to Nazi-Germany it can be perfectly plausible that they in fact DO represent the Reichstag. Any other capitol buildings are out of the question because that is NOT what the scene refers to. The fact that Americans don't know what the Reichstag is (which is a shame) doesn't mean that it CAN'T be referred to. Unlike many think, America is not the whole world.

A european, who knows our history would be perfectly fine with the explanation.
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Re: Hyena March.

Postby DGFone » January 11th, 2013, 10:17 pm

[quote="Woeler"]A european, who knows our history would be perfectly fine with the explanation.[/quote]

Guess who the target audience is. :P

Otherwise, you might as well show TLK to a bunch of African children and ask them to tally anything that's wrong in how the movie represents the African wildlife, culture, and history.
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Re: Hyena March.

Postby Woeler » January 13th, 2013, 12:21 pm

[quote="DGFone"][quote="Woeler"]A european, who knows our history would be perfectly fine with the explanation.[/quote]

Guess who the target audience is. :P [/quote]
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Re: Hyena March.

Postby DGFone » January 14th, 2013, 8:05 pm

Actually, not really. The target audience would in fact be the dumb average American. I.E. people who haven't heard of the Reichstag until someone in the family stormed it in CoD.
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Re: Hyena March.

Postby Woeler » January 14th, 2013, 8:13 pm

[quote="DGFone"]Actually, not really. The target audience would in fact be the dumb average American. I.E. people who haven't heard of the Reichstag until someone in the family stormed it in CoD.[/quote]
Nowhere does it say the target audience was American. The movie was released in the US and in Europe on the same day (June 15, 1994) fully translated and synchronized. Target audience is mentioned sometimes on the internet, and all the sources say ''kids''.

Heineken Beer is brewed here in my country. Does that mean the target audience is Dutch people? TLK was made in the US, released world wide and targeted world wide.
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Re: Hyena March.

Postby DGFone » January 14th, 2013, 8:36 pm

Do remember that The Lion King was made by Americans. Sure, your beer may be brewed in the Netherlands, but beer is not exactly a one-nation thing. Just about every nation has some kind of brewing industry.

But as for creating animated movies, you have in the end only two big players: Dreamworks and Disney. Both are American.

Sure, they might want an international audience, but at the end of the day, the people at Disney work in an American environment, and because of that, they create a movie for Americans. Just look at it like this: Disney animators make a movie that they want their own, American, children to see. Not a movie for that one dude in Europe.
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Re: Hyena March.

Postby Woeler » January 14th, 2013, 11:32 pm

My point is proven. This is for a worldwide audience. My argument makes complete sense.
American company=American audience is BS.
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Re: Hyena March.

Postby DGFone » January 14th, 2013, 11:38 pm

[quote="Woeler"]My point is proven. This is for a worldwide audience. My argument makes complete sense.
American company=American audience is BS.[/quote]

How is you're point proven?
Disney used the audience reference of their own children, who happen to be American. Simply saying "American company=American audience is BS" doesn't automatically prove your point, especially because in this specific case, you're quite wrong.
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Re: Hyena March.

Postby Woeler » January 14th, 2013, 11:56 pm

Especially because America wasnt the main audience. The world was.
Not a single small pathetic internet article states that is was meant for american kids mainly. Not one. I searched fir at least 30 minutes.
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Re: Hyena March.

Postby DGFone » January 15th, 2013, 12:05 am

Not 1 minute into looking in the right area...

Not how they all talk about their own families when figuring out what to with the story:
http://www.mylionking.com/theatre/lk/pr ... es_to_life

What it comes down is that the production team had what they thought would be great ideas. Who defines "great"? They do. And they happen to be Americans. This movie may be for an international audience, but the culture that made it is American.

I don't know about you, but unless you go into a history major, you're not going to learn about the Reichstag here in American schools. No one really cares about that one building that housed the short-lived, horrible German democratic system right before WWII. Here in America, the Reichstag is not a house-hold name.
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