Israel Under Attack?

[Tora]

I was going to post a book til I read the whole argument of yours. You argue the old testament, which Christians only look to for advice on certain things. You wanna argue old testament go talk with the Jews. (No Offense) No true Christian would ever do the things in which you depict. For like the third time I'll say only the Catholics follow the Pope. When you can start arguing using the words of Jesus I'd be glad to debate with you.

[WildSimba]

I was going to post a book til I read the whole argument of yours. You argue the old testament, which Christians only look to for advice on certain things. You wanna argue old testament go talk with the Jews. (No Offense) No true Christian would ever do the things in which you depict. For like the third time I'll say only the Catholics follow the Pope. When you can start arguing using the words of Jesus I'd be glad to debate with you.

Yes, since Christians follow the New Testament, and Jews don't believe Jesus was the true son of god, so they still follow the Old Testament. A true believer believes in Jesus, and his teachings. And believe it or not, if you've ever read the New Testament of the bible, a lot of what Jesus preached had to do with unity and treating everyone as equals and loving all of your fellow men.

[SlayerOfLight]

The way I see it, the God of christianity has not changed, nor would he ever. He's still the same God like in the old testement. However, in the new testament he shows his soft and caring side through his only begotten son Jesus Christ who was send by God the father to die for our sins instead, so that people no longer have to be stoned or sentanced to death for the sins they commit. It is important to understand that (according to the bible) Jesus was not merely a man, but God himself who came into the ''flesh'' not to condemn the world, but to save it.

But I admit, it's true that in the old testament God/Yahweh did not go easy on the wicked. For example, the 9th plague of Egypt ordered every newborn to be killed. However, what some people fail to realise is that it was actually the Pharaoh's fault because he got it comming himself. Moses clearly warned him that every newborn would be killed, if he wouldn't let the jews go (who at that moment were going through a ''holocaust'' similar to the nazi's). The Pharaoh selfishly choose to sacrifice all of his country's newborns over his jewish slaves, while he could have saved the newborns if he ONLY would have released all the jews. So I don't think God is the one to blame here. And then there is this misconception about ''human sacrice'' that Abraham was told by God to sacrifice his son Isaac. But this didn't happen, as God was only testing Abraham to see wether he would really do it or not.


Now, I'm not starting a debate or something. As a Christian, I'm just stating my opinion how I see things.

[Shadowfax]

*Is still waiting for Tora's book post* xD

[TheRoguePrince]

Every child whose mother was denied an abortion with a sucky life, abuse, neglectance or any other form of child abuse caused by this. The long time of persecuting homosexuals, women and black people. Thank you Christianity, thank you God. Amen

Don't forget Judaism and Islam in that too. Both of those religions are against homosexuality and abortions. Just saying...

If you had done your research you would have known that passive euthanasia is legal in Israel. Islam can be completely rejected as their countries are far behind on the technological scale. The only thing preventing euthanasia in the western world is Christianity.

You still owe Christianity an apology They aren't the only ones who want the anti-gay/anti-abortion lifestyle enforced. (inb4 massive RAGE)

That goes for Catholics not Protestants, to be fair they are both parts of Christianity, but don't loop the Pope in with Baptists and all lol

We're talking about Christianity here. As far as I know protestantism and catholicism are both a branches of Christianity.

Did you really just say that? O.O
Yes, Catholics and Protestants are very different. As different from Simba and Kovu, Sunni and Shiite, Drenthe and Flevoland, and the Old and New Testament LOL. Do some research between their differences between generalizing kthxbai.

you take away a child's right to decide over its own body

Ok, you make a good point there and I agree, but lol, once again you can't blame this one on religion. It's another example of "Weird USA acting differently from the rest of the world".

Of course the old testament is still relevant? Where do you get all this nonsense? It's like talking to Bill O'Reilly. The old testament is a holy book of the Jews and the basis for the new testament. You don't kill witches ANYMORE. And you know why? Because the world has become subject to argument, sober discussion, science and secular-moral philosophy.

The Old Testament may be included in the Bible nowadays, but it's not a source for laws. Testament means "will or covenant". We still use the word today when we speak of a person's "last will and testament." These names indicate that the Bible is composed of two wills of God -- an old will and a new will. It would be like your uncle leaving a lot of money to 150 different charities and then he changes his will to give to 3 charities. If you post a big long list of organizations the money was suppose to go to and say they should be followed, his lawyer would laugh and say: Read the New One Kid!

(e.g. a kid with the potential to become the scientists that cures cancer now believes that the earth is 4000 years old and created by an invisible entity that defies physics. That is not moral. That is stupid.)

It's silly (and a little bit judgmental) to say that people you believe those things cannot make good scientists. You are saying I must believe every scientific theory about the age of the universe before I can work in a cancer laboratory? Are you saying we should weed out these "kooks"? How do you suggest we do that? Thought police? 1984?

Just to be clear: I don't need to stop doing anything.

[Azdgari]

So! Who believes this vein of argument is going anywhere at all?

[WildSimba]

So! Who believes this vein of argument is going anywhere at all?

I don't. Religious debates never get anywhere. Both sides of the argument are always too full of themselves to admit they're wrong, but it's their belief so all power to them. Can't argue with ignorance.

But it's usually best to steer clear of these things (especially since I don't know how appropriate it is to be talking about the mutilation of male genitalia on a TLK website lol).

[TheRoguePrince]

So! Who believes this vein of argument is going anywhere at all?

I agree

I'll repeat the point I made before this little tangent: Israel gets a majority of US support because Hamas (a terrorist organization just like al-Qaeda) is working with Palestine. So yeah...