For or against Gay Marriage

[DGFone]

Hmm. never heard of them. Reading wikipedia atm. I find them quite weird to be honest. ''Gay (supporting) republican'' It's one of those terms like ''Jewish Nazi (supporter)''.

Uh, no... Just... no.

[Carl]

Saw this on another forum and thought I'd add it in here for people who oppose gay marriage.

I believe this is a cause worth trying my very best for. Equality is something very dear and important to me and although you personally may not give enough of **** about other people (I don't blame you, it's hard understand why Homosexuals want all the same rights as you because you're already in a privileged position), I do. And I believe that these "other people" deserve the same rights as everyone else, and a good foot in the door would be marriage.


And yes, I am telling you that a lack of belief in the basic rights of Homosexuals is wrong. That is a fact, it's opposition to human rights, and if you can't swallow that then your opinion isn't robust enough to be taken seriously.

In addition because I'm so sick and tired of people telling me they don't approve of it because it is "wrong" or "gross" and it will somehow damage the fundamentals of marriage, since you prejudiced intolerant people won't stop shouting about how wrong it is no matter what, explain to me how a feeling that someone can't control is immoral. Explain to me exactly how loving another human (which, by the way is what Jesus was all about preaching, according to the religious text most people use to back their anti-gay views) is wrong. We cannot control who we like and how well we like them. That is FACT.

And on top of that, I would just like to add that by leaving gay marriage illegal, gay people will still be together. They will still love who they love, they just won't get the right to see them in the hospital bed, or purchase a home TOGETHER. They will still be doing the things you anti-gays are against, because face it THEY CANNOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT THEY ARE GAY. Just like everyone else can't change whether or not they prefer blondes or tall people or whatever else.

And finally, if we have to legalize gay marriage, then we should have to legalize straight marriage, too, because guess what? IT WAS NEVER MADE LEGAL EITHER, OK? Odd isn't it that one thing that was never legalized is somehow legal and fine, but another thing that is EXACTLY the same and wasn't legalized, is not only illegal, but somehow immoral.

[TheBlackCatCrossing]

Has anyone here heard of the Log Cabin Republicans? They are an LGBT group that is endorsing Romney. Thoughts?

Hmm. never heard of them. Reading wikipedia atm. I find them quite weird to be honest. ''Gay (supporting) republican'' It's one of those terms like ''Jewish Nazi (supporter)''.

I can not deny that they do good work though. Trying to knock some sense into them and trying to remove state supported discrimination.

You know they are supporting Romney for economic reasons, right? They have been around even before she showed up. Can homosexuals be Republican? They are business owners. Look at the CEO of NBC, Robert Greenblatt. He's out loud and proud. In that regard I can see why they would support Romney. Awhile ago, I saw an Asian woman who was a small business owner show her support for Mittens.

[TheGunner18]

Saw this on another forum and thought I'd add it in here for people who oppose gay marriage.

I believe this is a cause worth trying my very best for. Equality is something very dear and important to me and although you personally may not give enough of **** about other people (I don't blame you, it's hard understand why Homosexuals want all the same rights as you because you're already in a privileged position), I do. And I believe that these "other people" deserve the same rights as everyone else, and a good foot in the door would be marriage.


And yes, I am telling you that a lack of belief in the basic rights of Homosexuals is wrong. That is a fact, it's opposition to human rights, and if you can't swallow that then your opinion isn't robust enough to be taken seriously.

In addition because I'm so sick and tired of people telling me they don't approve of it because it is "wrong" or "gross" and it will somehow damage the fundamentals of marriage, since you prejudiced intolerant people won't stop shouting about how wrong it is no matter what, explain to me how a feeling that someone can't control is immoral. Explain to me exactly how loving another human (which, by the way is what Jesus was all about preaching, according to the religious text most people use to back their anti-gay views) is wrong. We cannot control who we like and how well we like them. That is FACT.

And on top of that, I would just like to add that by leaving gay marriage illegal, gay people will still be together. They will still love who they love, they just won't get the right to see them in the hospital bed, or purchase a home TOGETHER. They will still be doing the things you anti-gays are against, because face it THEY CANNOT CHANGE THE FACT THAT THEY ARE GAY. Just like everyone else can't change whether or not they prefer blondes or tall people or whatever else.

And finally, if we have to legalize gay marriage, then we should have to legalize straight marriage, too, because guess what? IT WAS NEVER MADE LEGAL EITHER, OK? Odd isn't it that one thing that was never legalized is somehow legal and fine, but another thing that is EXACTLY the same and wasn't legalized, is not only illegal, but somehow immoral.

Unfortunately, as much as we try to knock sense into these deluded peoples' heads and as much as we bombard them with the truth and the morally correct decision, they're still going to lock themselves behind a mental barricade that they wouldn't dare be breached. They're going to close the curtains and refuse to see why they're wrong.

Very soon though science, logic and common sense will prevail, and things like same-sex marriages will be rightly legalised and respected. We've come a long way since the time that homosexuals were persecuted and even killed. Society is improving. Do you know what that's corresponding with? The rise of science and atheism.

[TheRoguePrince]

Unfortunately, as much as we try to knock sense into these deluded peoples' heads and as much as we bombard them with the truth and the morally correct decision, they're still going to lock themselves behind a mental barricade that they wouldn't dare be breached.

Well gee, I wonder why they won't listen, you're talking so nice to them

[TheGunner18]

Unfortunately, as much as we try to knock sense into these deluded peoples' heads and as much as we bombard them with the truth and the morally correct decision, they're still going to lock themselves behind a mental barricade that they wouldn't dare be breached.

Well gee, I wonder why they won't listen, you're talking so nice to them

Talking nice isn't the answer, regrettably. Sugar-coating things just makes it worse.

[Azdgari]

Unfortunately, as much as we try to knock sense into these deluded peoples' heads and as much as we bombard them with the truth and the morally correct decision, they're still going to lock themselves behind a mental barricade that they wouldn't dare be breached.

Well gee, I wonder why they won't listen, you're talking so nice to them

Haha, seriously. So many people preaching kindness and tolerance--while referring to the opposition as brainless, heartless brutes with no compassion, logic, morals, etc. Quality double standard.

[Carl]

Well gee, I wonder why they won't listen, you're talking so nice to them

Haha, seriously. So many people preaching kindness and tolerance--while referring to the opposition as brainless, heartless brutes with no compassion, logic, morals, etc. Quality double standard.

I'm sorry, should I be nice to someone who says I'm immoral if I want to marry another woman? What people fail to realize is that straight people have this guarantee that whoever they fall in love with, they can get married to and they will get rights to make decisions regarding that person's health etc. For gay people those RIGHTS are DENIED automatically. And for bisexuals like myself, there is only a 50% chance we can marry the person we fall in love with and obtain said rights. That is discrimination, and I, for one, have been silent for too damn long. People are people. No one is automatically better than anyone else. So either give us the rights you have, or take them from yourselves. I'm not going to bother talking nice to people who won't respect rights I should not have to fight for.

[Azdgari]

I'm saying that you're fighting for tolerance with intolerance. The only person on this board who opposes gay marriage is LionPrince, who is perfectly civil and a good dude. How do you think he feels with the way you all have stereotyped him for his beliefs?

[Carl]

I apologize for being so hotheaded, but I have gotten quite frustrated with talking civilly with people like that, I have been doing it elsewhere and honestly I'm tired of the amount of prejudice out there. And actually, there are 12 people here opposed to gay marriage, and one of whom stated their opinion quite rudely several pages back.