For or against Gay Marriage

Do you support gay marriage?

Yes
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No
12
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Other (Please Specify)
1
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Re: For or against Gay Marriage

Postby Woeler » September 10th, 2012, 9:29 pm

[quote="LinkCoolKitva"]4, I c no bad things about it. If someone wants to be gay, let them.[/quote]
Implying someone has a choice...
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Re: For or against Gay Marriage

Postby AdAstrα » September 10th, 2012, 9:52 pm

That's one of the misconceptions about homo and bisexuality that annoys me most tbh. It's NOT a choice. In most people (myself included), it's something that is obvious even from an early age. Whether or not people choose to accept it, that's different. That's a choice. Either accept it, or live in denial for the rest of your life. But homosexuality itself it not something you choose. It just happens.
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Re: For or against Gay Marriage

Postby HasiraKali » September 11th, 2012, 2:21 am

Woeler has already said this, but it still stands. If you don't want a same-sex marriage, don't get one. I mean really. I've already presented my thoughts on this in another thread, the Election one I think.

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Re: For or against Gay Marriage

Postby Carl » September 11th, 2012, 2:51 am

As far as I'm concerned, straight marriage never had to be legalized, so why should gay marriage have to be?
I would go on to voice all of my opinions on the issue, but Woeler and several others have already said pretty much everything I have to say about it. Love is love. I'm sure pretty much everyone here knows as well as I do that you can't control who you fall in love with. If that person loves you, too, then you should be able to get married, regardless of gender. It's as simple as that IMO.
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Re: For or against Gay Marriage

Postby Regulus » September 11th, 2012, 2:57 am

^ Pretty much. Straight couples shouldn't be the only ones who have to suffer.
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Re: For or against Gay Marriage

Postby UncoordinatedPisces » September 11th, 2012, 5:08 pm

[quote="AdAstra"]That's one of the misconceptions about homo and bisexuality that annoys me most tbh. It's NOT a choice. In most people (myself included), it's something that is obvious even from an early age. Whether or not people choose to accept it, that's different. That's a choice. Either accept it, or live in denial for the rest of your life. But homosexuality itself it not something you choose. It just happens.[/quote]

Wise words of Frida yet again ^.^

And I agree with them. I'm pretty sure I'm bisexual (haven't really experimented yet, but I find myself attracted to some of my female friends and male friends), and I can't exactly stop myself. So it's not a choice.
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Re: For or against Gay Marriage

Postby Woeler » September 11th, 2012, 10:33 pm

It is called "being against gay marriage" because "I hate gay people" didnt sound right.
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Re: For or against Gay Marriage

Postby Kitva Hyperlink » September 11th, 2012, 10:38 pm

[quote="Woeler1"][quote="LinkCoolKitva"]4, I c no bad things about it. If someone wants to be gay, let them.[/quote]
Implying someone has a choice...[/quote]
They do. Some people might be gay, others straight, either way the only things that count is happiness. So if you are straight and happy that's good, if you are gay and happy, that's good too. But if your Unhappy then it's not good.
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Re: For or against Gay Marriage

Postby Woeler » September 11th, 2012, 10:46 pm

[quote="LinkCoolKitva"][quote="Woeler1"][quote="LinkCoolKitva"]4, I c no bad things about it. If someone wants to be gay, let them.[/quote]
Implying someone has a choice...[/quote]
They do. Some people might be gay, others straight, either way the only things that count is happiness. So if you are straight and happy that's good, if you are gay and happy, that's good too. But if your Unhappy then it's not good.[/quote]
No, sexual orientation is NOT a choice. It is as much a choice as handedness is. Sexuality is a biological principle and nobody chooses whether they are straight or gay, you are just born that way.
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Re: For or against Gay Marriage

Postby Carl » September 11th, 2012, 10:48 pm

Link, being gay is not a choice. It's like AdAstra said:

[quote="AdAstra"]That's one of the misconceptions about homo and bisexuality that annoys me most tbh. It's NOT a choice. In most people (myself included), it's something that is obvious even from an early age. Whether or not people choose to accept it, that's different. That's a choice. Either accept it, or live in denial for the rest of your life. But homosexuality itself it not something you choose. It just happens.[/quote]

And as Woeler mentioned previously:

[quote="Woeler1"]No, people choose to be gay in order to be persecuted and denied freedom by people like you. They want it, they love being oppressed and persecuted.

Homosexuality is a biological phenomenon.

First, twin studies. Recent studies have found that when one identical twin is gay, there is a 52 percent chance the other is also gay; if one fraternal twin is gay, the probability the other twin is gay drops to 22 percent; and if one separate-birth sibling is gay, there is only a 6 percent to 10 percent chance another sibling will be gay. This indicates both heritability and that something environmental (probably hormone levels in utero) is at play. This is reinforced by the fact that more recent studies have indicated that when identical twins share an amniotic sack, they nearly always have the same orientation, gay or straight.

Look also at studies on fraternal birth order. Ray Blanchard and colleagues discovered accidentally that each time a woman gives birth to a son, the chance that the boy will be gay increases by about 30 percent. Older sisters do not affect the probability, only older brothers. Blanchard argues that this indicates an immunoresponse by the mother to the presence of a male child.

There are also studies that have shown differences in finger length between heterosexuals and homosexuals. The results of these studies have been verified and reproduced.

Sexuality is about as much a “choice” as handedness is.[/quote]

Choosing to be gay would be like choosing to be a particular ethnicity. It's not something you can choose, it's how you are born.
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