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Re: Brainstorming

Postby FlipMode » April 21st, 2012, 10:31 am

Arani wrote:
One: Swearing CANNOT be allowed! This is a LION KING FORUM. The are CHILDREN on this site. Most parents DO NOT let their kids swear and they do not want them reading it on a TLK forum. It's as simple as that. We can't have swearing because believe it or not past your swearing brim hats there are LOTS of people who do not swear and think of it as immoral, out of their values, ect. And if you people can't see beyond your little plot of land out there then you need to take a bus and move out into the real world.


You know that works both ways. I can just as easily say that there are people who DONT get offended over words on the internet, who DONT view it as immoral because life is too short to be getting all worked up over a little bit of swearing here and there.
The fact is most people here do not care about it and a good few of us are over 18 anyway. Its never caused any real problems has it? Nope, its just a rule for the sake of being a rule and also there are still word censors so what is the problem?

What the parents think is irrelevant, if they are too stupid to understand that people CAN post offensive stuff on the internet and that its out of the control of the staff, then they shouldn't have let their kids on in the first place, either that or they didnt read the clause that states exactly this.
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Re: Brainstorming

Postby LionsAreKings » April 21st, 2012, 10:43 am

Arani wrote:One: Swearing CANNOT be allowed! This is a LION KING FORUM. The are CHILDREN on this site. Most parents DO NOT let their kids swear and they do not want them reading it on a TLK forum.


I'm sorry, this just seems odd to me but I'm pretty sure there are hardly any members who are under 13's and by definition teenagers are considered to be between the ages of 13-19. Also swearing is everywhere nowadays. We all just have to face the facts that kids today are being exposed to bad influences as opposed to say ten years ago when such things didn't exist. I'm not saying that the new generation of youth is bad, I mean I myself am a teenager but back then there was at least some decency.
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Re: Brainstorming

Postby FlipMode » April 21st, 2012, 10:51 am

Yeah those were much more conservative times. If you ever studies Shakespeare or history then there is a good chance your tutor explained this already.
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Re: Brainstorming

Postby Azdgari » April 21st, 2012, 1:17 pm

Arani wrote:I'm going to put it my two cents:

One: Swearing CANNOT be allowed! This is a LION KING FORUM. The are CHILDREN on this site. Most parents DO NOT let their kids swear and they do not want them reading it on a TLK forum. It's as simple as that. We can't have swearing because believe it or not past your swearing brim hats there are LOTS of people who do not swear and think of it as immoral, out of their values, ect. And if you people can't see beyond your little plot of land out there then you need to take a bus and move out into the real world.

Hear hear, seriously. It's a lion king forum aimed at young people, meaning there are young people on here that don't need to see bad language.

orrection, this Was a lion king forum. Now it is 95% groups of friends hanging out in the den and membersHQ, 5% lion king. Again I am all for the NSFW section.

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I mean, no offense, but some of you guys are acting like swearing is, I don't know, breathing. I can't drop the F-bomb on here? GOD **** IT HOW CAN I POSSIBLY EXPRESS MYSELF? Seriously, when do you really need to swear? Because you think you can't get your point across otherwise? Because you find it funny? It's just unnecessary on a forum for a -children's movie-. Mah two centes.
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Re: Brainstorming

Postby Arani » April 21st, 2012, 2:08 pm

Oh. My. God. You people are crazy. Just because young kids don't post regularly around here does not mean there aren't any! They're always around surfing the forum, joining up but then deciding against it, it's just a part of the forum life. We can't go around swearing everywhere because we don't need any more reason to have parents forbidding activity or kids getting bad internet influences. My god, you people just can't handle the fact that you can't swear, it's like you can't go through life without it. If you want to swear everywhere and all of that stuff then go do it somewhere else, but in a forum like this it can't be allowed. Just because you can't handle no swearing does not mean it should be allowed just like that. Yes it may be more common these days in your group of friends and your way of life, but apparently you guys don't get out much because there is a world out there and there are millions and millions of people who don't swear/swear very little. I'm not saying no swearing is something that should be a rule on every forum or anything, but the fact of the matter is there are young children here every single day and we can't be offending them with the f-bombs and what not. It simply can't be done. And if you can't handle that then you need to just get over it and move on.
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Re: Brainstorming

Postby LionsAreKings » April 21st, 2012, 3:19 pm

^Firstly I agree, that swearing should not be used regularly on MLK if at all. I mean like you said not everyone swears, but then you have people who swear on a daily basis in their conversations (which is just sad) and then we have the people in the middle who swear only if they are angry, frustrated or provoked. I, for one am in the middle but not often as it's pretty hard to make me angry. Also I'm sorry about not thinking that their are no younger members, I forgot that most kids have access to computers nowadays =P. And I couldn't care less which way the swearing rule goes but as long as it benefits MLK.

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Re: Brainstorming

Postby Regulus » April 21st, 2012, 3:54 pm

Arani wrote:Yes it may be more common these days in your group of friends and your way of life, but apparently you guys don't get out much because there is a world out there and there are millions and millions of people who don't swear/swear very little.


I could say the exact opposite thing. Have you ever been to a public school? Kids swear all the time. My parents swear all the time. Even some of my teachers swear. Even in PG movies, there's some swearing. I can't think of a PG-13 or R movie without swearing. It's a commonly accepted fact that everyone has cursed at least once at some point in their life. Even if that isn't true, I'm pretty sure everyone at least wants to swear when something bad happens, whether they say anything or not.

Do you really think that anyone who has made it far enough around the internet to join an online community like this one has never seen the F-word in text before? You needn't look farther than picking a random Youtube video and reading the comments; you're bound to come across some profanity after 2 or 3 minutes. I'd bet that most kids who are here at least visit other, far worse, online communities.

If children shouldn't know what a word means, then they shouldn't be allowed near computers; it's as simple as that. But I don't believe that. I don't believe in hiding knowledge from the young, just because they're young.
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Re: Brainstorming

Postby DGFone » April 21st, 2012, 4:35 pm

Also another thing about why a "no swearing rule" is just asking for trouble:

Everyone have a slightly different list of what is and what is not considered a swear word. So you have a member who posted what they see as a perfectly innocent post. Another reader sees it and goes "OMG, A SWEAR WORD!!11!!!1!". Soon you have two angry members shouting at each other about whether or not the post actually had swearing in it, and then a mod has to step in and now you have the member's day ruined.

We can ban a few words, but then there will have to be an official list of words that are banned, not a generic "you can't swear". So if there are words that a vast majority think MLK can be better off without, fine. But those specific words will have to be made clear that it is them and only them that are banned.
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Re: Brainstorming

Postby Arani » April 21st, 2012, 4:40 pm

^ I actually think this may work better, but we have to make sure that words like the F word and all are banned for sure. Maybe only slight swears can be used?
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Re: Brainstorming

Postby DGFone » April 21st, 2012, 4:44 pm

That can work. :)

The official rules will need to be updated to show which exact words are banned. This way, it's easy to deal with. Is it on the list? Then it's swearing. Is it not on the list? Then it's fine.

It is much better to turn a vague idea with lots of grey area into a simple algorithm. People aren't machines, but we can learn a thing or two from the computers we make and use. XD
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