Vegetarianism

[NalaKiaraTani]

Gomene, I have a feeling I'm striking some nerves in this argument... uu upset?

[Saffyminty]

[quote="NalaKiaraTani"]Gomene, I have a feeling I'm striking some nerves in this argument... uu upset?[/quote]

Me??? Hehe no It was just like ...okay... sure!!!

[NalaKiaraTani]

[quote="Saffyminty"][quote="NalaKiaraTani"]Gomene, I have a feeling I'm striking some nerves in this argument... uu upset?[/quote]

Me??? Hehe no It was just like ...okay... sure!!![/quote]

Lol no I suck at trolling and will not try it again from here on out. My views on vegetarianism- Being a vegan isn't bad, I have nothing against it. However I will say that it isn't all that healthy. There's this disease called pallegra (please google it I really don't feel like going into great detal about it) which can make you have to get an amputation. I don't know about you but I don't want to loose a limb because I play softball and need all the limbs I can get! (sorry quick ot moment there ^^; ) You get pallegra from lack of proteins and other vital things that you can only get from meats. Not saying vegans will get pallegra but it could happen. Sometimes you can get everything you need from just vegetables, but humans were not made to eat just veggies, grains etc. A little meat in the diet can help maintain your health

[Azdgari]

[quote="WildSimba"][quote="Saffyminty"][quote="Amanda"]

Anyway, vegetarianism does not appeal to me at all. I doubt many carnivores grieve for the meat they eat, so why should we? Besides, plants are living creatures too. And it's not like the animal won't be gobbled up by another hungry animal if we don't get to it first. Nature is cruel - deal with it.[/quote]

Yeah I get what you mean!! I can't help but think that everything has feelings. But yeah i don't know. We must eat and so does everything else I guess!! But i do not want to continue eating meat.[/quote]

As far as I'm concerned, your doing animals an injustice by not eating meat. The few vegetarians out there aren't going to make a lasting impression on the meat industry, and the demand of meat isn't going to drop, because the general mass isn't going to stop eating meat because they think it's wrong. Those animals are still going to be killed, the only difference is, when you don't eat them, they died in vain.

A few people aren't going to make a lasting impression, on an industry that produces thousands of jobs in an Economy that is in really bad shape. If we got rid of it, all we'd be doing is pushing our Economy further downhill.[/quote]
Essentially what I said to my morally incorruptable vegetarian non-alcohol buddhist brother. He responded with two arguments that completely changed my mind:

A) Vegetarianism is actually having a huge impact on the food industry, especially since many people now do it out of anger at the conditions animal are in.

B) That's complete crap and you know it. Morals are morals: the whole point is to stand up for what is right regardless of the situation. You are supporting brutal abuse of animals when you eat meat that's not locally grown/freerange, and there's absolutely no way around that. We've all seen that videos, seen the statistics. I'm not being a jerk, I eat meat too and I acknowledge that I'm part of the problem. I'm trying to eat more locally grown and freerange meat, but it is hard. Nobody said it was easy. I have a lot of respect for vegetarians.


@health risks: my brother, sister, girlfriend, and mother are vegetarians. We are all in fine physical condition as approved by our physicians; my brother ran college cross country and runs marathons, my sister ran high school cross country, my girlfriend is going to college for lacrosse. It is not nearly as difficult or as 'dangerous' as people are making it out to be. As long as you actually pay attention to what you eat (a concept foreign to me, being a teenager ;3) it's not very hard to come up with all the correct food groups. In fact, they eat -much- healthier than I do.

[Woeler]

[quote="NalaKiaraTani"]
Lol no I suck at trolling and will not try it again from here on out. My views on vegetarianism- Being a vegan isn't bad, I have nothing against it. However I will say that it isn't all that healthy. There's this disease called pallegra (please google it I really don't feel like going into great detal about it) which can make you have to get an amputation. I don't know about you but I don't want to loose a limb because I play softball and need all the limbs I can get! (sorry quick ot moment there ^^; ) You get pallegra from lack of proteins and other vital things that you can only get from meats. Not saying vegans will get pallegra but it could happen. Sometimes you can get everything you need from just vegetables, but humans were not made to eat just veggies, grains etc. A little meat in the diet can help maintain your health [/quote]

first, it's called Pellagra and not pallegra. Second, This disease only develops when you don't get vitamin B3 and Amino-acid Tryptophan. Those are also found in peanuts, grains, mushrooms and beer. The disease can also develop with chronic alcoholism. Pellagra is very rare in Europe and in North-America. Knowing all this, you have the same chance of getting the disease as a vegetarian has.

NOTHING TO BE AFRAID OF PEOPLE!

I also agree with Azdgari

[Shadowfax]

I turned vegeterian as soon as I moved out last year. I only ever ate chicken so it was easy to wean myself off that. I've never really liked eating meat and I always wanted to be a vegetarian, but my parents really shot me down for it so I didn't really have a choice but to eat what I was given at home ¬¬

It's a healthier lifestyle IMO. I eat a lot of vegetables/fruit/quorn etc. Iron is the only supplement I take and I had a blood test a few months ago and my blood was perfect. No signs of anemia whatsoever. I get plenty of fibre/protien/vitamins and I feel so much more energetic and healthier. Plus, I lost weight

Why did I become a veggie? Because it's something i've always wanted to do and the final push for me was when I went to an animal sanctuary this time last year. I was sitting outside eating my lunch and there were over 100 battery hens there. I tell you, if you saw the state of those poor things anyone would think twice about eating meat.

I don't have a problem with people who eat meat, but I don't eat it so expect people to respect that in return :3 Which thankfully most people have. My boyfriend gets annoyed when he can't cook, but it's so easy to substitute chicken/beef/bacon with quorn. Quorn fillets don't taste any different to chicken IMO xD

[Saffyminty]

[quote="Shadowfax"]I turned vegeterian as soon as I moved out last year. I only ever ate chicken so it was easy to wean myself off that. I've never really liked eating meat and I always wanted to be a vegetarian, but my parents really shot me down for it so I didn't really have a choice but to eat what I was given at home ¬¬

It's a healthier lifestyle IMO. I eat a lot of vegetables/fruit/quorn etc. Iron is the only supplement I take and I had a blood test a few months ago and my blood was perfect. No signs of anemia whatsoever. I get plenty of fibre/protien/vitamins and I feel so much more energetic and healthier. Plus, I lost weight

Why did I become a veggie? Because it's something i've always wanted to do and the final push for me was when I went to an animal sanctuary this time last year. I was sitting outside eating my lunch and there were over 100 battery hens there. I tell you, if you saw the state of those poor things anyone would think twice about eating meat.

I don't have a problem with people who eat meat, but I don't eat it so expect people to respect that in return :3 Which thankfully most people have. My boyfriend gets annoyed when he can't cook, but it's so easy to substitute chicken/beef/bacon with quorn. Quorn fillets don't taste any different to chicken IMO xD[/quote]

Well it sounds like going vegetarian worked out great for you!!! I hope I can be like this one day!