Kiaras Interactions

Re: Kiaras Interactions

Postby Lauren » July 13th, 2011, 1:49 am

For all I know, relationships come in all different ways. Let's see how I would explain:

Kiara and Zira: Well, at the time that Kiara saw Zira for the first time, Zira was finished speaking to Simba and does her evil chuckle and even looks right at her. Kiara seemed very aware and frightened by her when she was just a cub. Their relationship wouldn't work out, since Zira is the antagonist here. As for when Kiara is an adult, Zira holds her plan to use Kovu's relationship with Kiara in order to get close to Simba and kill him. If Kiara and Zira meet again but before the end, Zira wouldn't really be having a bonding relationship with her. She would be thinking in her head constantly "The daughter is the key to what I want. I hope my plan is working." Kiara's love relationship with Kovu is actually real and has a big effect on the plot, which is necessary. Zira doesn't have any bonding relationships in the movie. She used Vitani and Kovu for her plan and Nuka was just treated like nothing towards her. For the lionesses in her pride, they kept following in Zira's dark evil ways, but all they wanted was a good life. Zira was depriving from that happening. Kiara does offer to help Zira from falling into the river, but Zira refuses to accept help from a Pridelander who ruined what she wanted. She couldn't let go of her hate towards the Pridelanders and there wouldn't be a lot of time for their relationship to be something during that moment, since Zira dies shortly after that.

Kiara and Nuka: These two never came face to face once and their relationship wouldn't effect the movie that much. I think that Nuka's thoughts about Kiara would be biased because he wasn't part of Zira's plan to get Simba dead. Also, Nuka just wanted to be a leader with chance and not much of a relationship. He struggles with gaining Zira's attention to him. Vitani was in her plan and would act a bit more threatening towards Kiara (since she was part of what her mother really wants). Nuka wouldn't have too much effect on Kiara and he would just think "Kiara's alright. Not much."

Kiara and Vitani: Kiara and Kovu meet each other for the first time when they were cubs. Vitani wasn't there while Kovu was. If Vitani was there, she would just be on her brother's side and act means towards Kiara along with Kovu. After the crocodile attack, Vitani could have talked to Kiara for a bit and start a small relationship, but in the movie, she wasn't there. At the end, Vitani turns down her own mother and switches prides. There wasn't talking between her and Kiara and it would've not add too much to the ending.

Kiara and Zazu & Rafiki: These relationships don't really have a special point in the movie. For Kiara,they're just friends of the family and that's all.

Kiara and Nala: Of course, the movie focuses more on Simba and Kiara, which is the father & daughter relationship we see. Simba is the main character in the TLK universe and the fans wanted to see how his life would be like having a child while being a king. Sometimes, mother & daughter relationships are very different from father & daugther and father & son relationships. In TLK1, we saw the father & son relationship, which was Cub Simba and Mufasa. Nala's screen time with Kiara does seem very short and limited, but at least she gives Kiara confidence. The mother & daughter relationship is not seen in SP too much, but it is better than not having Nala talk to Kiara at all or even exist.
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Re: Kiaras Interactions

Postby Azdgari » July 13th, 2011, 4:39 am

Excusing sounding rude, but isn't that all conjecture? In the movie, Kiara and Nala have a negligible relationship (1 scripted interaction? 2?), Kiara and Zira don't directly interact (maybe briefly during the standoff, but that's hardly a relationship), Kiara never meets Nuka, and Kiara has no interaction with Vitani, even when she switches sides. :3

I dunno, there are a million things I can point out that are wrong with SP. I don't know if there's a point; ultimately whether it was poorly made or not a lot of people here enjoy it a lot, so I don't know if it's a good idea for me to continually point out its flaws, even if I want to. Just because a movie has technical flaws doesn't mean people can't enjoy it and have it be a good movie in their eyes.
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Re: Kiaras Interactions

Postby PrincessKiara » July 13th, 2011, 9:37 am

It`s impossible to know how Nuka would have felt about Kiara, but I don`t think their lack of interaction is a problem in the movie. It`s Kiaras relationship to Kovu that`s important, not to his siblings Nuka and Vitani.
And of course Kiara didn`t really matter to Zira, all she wanted was to get to Simba.. Kiara was just someone Zira could use to get closer to him.


Azdgari: True. SP certainly has its flaws.. But in my opinion it`s the best sequel Disney has made, and I do enjoy it a lot. Kiara is one of my favourite characters, but sometimes it feels good to point out certain things about the movie or certain characters in it that I find irritating/poorly written.


Particularly I have a major issue with Nala and Kiaras relationship, but that`s because I love Nala, and I hate how small a role she got in SP, eventhough she has a couple of good moments.
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Re: Kiaras Interactions

Postby SimbasGuard » July 14th, 2011, 5:19 am

I agree that Nala should have had a bigger role in Lion King 2, but it's plain to see that Nala and Kiara have a wonderful relationship (Even if it not really focused upon in the movie). In the scenes Nala and Kiara share there is usually nuzzling, and a lot can be said without words. My personal favorite is after Simba,Nala,Kovu, and Kiara all roar from Pride Rock. After nuzzling there respective mates, Nala and Kiara glance at each other and then nudge Simba and Kovu Together.
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Re: Kiaras Interactions

Postby PrincessKiara » July 15th, 2011, 5:57 pm

^ True, that is a very good point. :smile2:
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Re: Kiaras Interactions

Postby SummerSnowLeopard » September 24th, 2011, 8:53 pm

It always annoyed me that Kiara hardly ever interacted with most of the characters. She only interacted with Timon and Pumbaa once (to my memory). I wish she spent more time with Nala as a cub :3
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Re: Kiaras Interactions

Postby SimbasGuard » September 27th, 2011, 10:26 pm

[quote="QueenSummer"]She only interacted with Timon and Pumbaa once (to my memory)[/quote]

Actually three times, They babysat her as a cub, they followed her on her first hunt, and then the three of them all showed Kovu how to have fun.

[quote="QueenSummer"] I wish she spent more time with Nala as a cub :3[/quote]

Yes some more interaction between Nala and Young Kiara would have been a good thing.
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Re: Kiaras Interactions

Postby SweetNala » October 3rd, 2011, 8:38 pm

I agree. One of the reasons why TLK is better. She should have interacted with Nala more, Nala would be a pretty good mom
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Re: Kiaras Interactions

Postby PrincessKiara » October 7th, 2011, 10:52 pm

[quote="QueenSummer"]I wish she spent more time with Nala as a cub :3[/quote]

I agree. I would have loved to see some sweet mother/daughter moments, such as Nala giving baby/cub Kiara a bath.
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Re: Kiaras Interactions

Postby Keiichi » October 16th, 2011, 9:22 pm

[quote="QueenSummer"]It always annoyed me that Kiara hardly ever interacted with most of the characters. She only interacted with Timon and Pumbaa once (to my memory). I wish she spent more time with Nala as a cub :3[/quote]

i agree with you ^^

I thought she wasn't timid. :roll:
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