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Re: Kopa

Postby Misiziri » January 22nd, 2011, 8:29 pm

Wow, sorry guys, 3 posts in a row for me :goodnight: But I found a little tidbit that supports Kopa!

At the end of the first movie, the cub being held up has the black ear-rims that Kiara lacks. He also has a pink nose and Kiara's is purple, but the coloration of the entire 2nd movie is different so I'll exclude that one :P
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Re: Kopa

Postby Jiirani » January 22nd, 2011, 8:31 pm

I think the Pridelands would die like they did when Scar took over if Zira was queen o.e Just sayin'

That's obvious LL. Kiara wasn't the cub at the end of the first movie. The cub was 'Fluffy' and was named as a joke by the TLK creators. It has no gender. Kopa was created after TLK was made, so it cannot be him.
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Re: Kopa

Postby dariusgib » January 22nd, 2011, 8:32 pm

Were friends, also even how bad the evidence in SP with the second cub and the first one is SP came up with the best defense
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Re: Kopa

Postby Misiziri » January 22nd, 2011, 8:34 pm

Kiara was created after TLK, too :P I know they never specified it, but just to give it a name and ident I say it's Kopa.
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Re: Kopa

Postby SuperBabySimba » January 22nd, 2011, 8:36 pm

I thought it was darius who added the dream killer text to an avatar I had made.

LavishLioness, you have a valid point with that if a fan theory makes sense with the canon source's plot. But the thing is that the most popular Kopa theories don't make sense to the canon.

[quote="LavishLioness"]Another little detail I just thought of is that they can't show every detail of Simba and any other character's life in the movie, so perhaps the comics show what happened... "behind the scenes."[/quote]

You're right, they can't show every little detail about crucial plot parts in the film. But what they can do is refer to everything crucial. Like, in this case, if there had been another cub before Kiara, they could've and would've said so in the film.

In example, they could've had Simba and Nala briefly discuss it instead of how much Kiara reminds them of Simba. Or, combined the two topics. Nala: "She's just like you when you were young."--Simba could've replied "Exactly! Remember how our son Kopa was just like me and he disappeared/got killed by the outlanders! And remember all those danger we got ourselves into!" I mean, Kiara was far away by that point--the discussion was free to be about anything in the world--and adding that one line would've taken less than five seconds of their minuete limit. And instead of having Nala be careless, they could've had her walk away worried/sorrowful indtead of walking away carelessly. But no, instead they have him only remark about their personal childhood dangers and Nala poke him about it and carelessly state that Kiara will be fine. Because there was never a son at all, not to mention a murdered son.

[quote="LavishLioness"]And I do support Zira killing Kopa to make some room for Kovu, but if enough flaws in that common theory are pointed out I'll reconsider. I can't really find anything too invalid with it :P[/quote]

1. My point in my above paragraph.
2. Kiara's protection and supervision is left in the hands of a tiny meerkat and a warthog. Creatures that are easily killed by a lion, not to mention numerous lions. If someone really wanted to kill the princess, they would bear a warthog's stink for a little while. Especially as it would stop stinking after it's dead or at least couldn't follow around. As in if Kiara's parents had a child who'd disappeared or been murdered, they would have their second child much, much better supervised and protected--especially as she is eveidently just like Simba who himself used to manage ditching unreliable babysitter.
3.) Zira is an evil psycho who takes pleasure in blood spilling and war. Yet she doesn' brag about how she succeeded in killing the prince and revenge Scar's death by it. Instead she whines and complains about how unjust the exile was and how she is about to get her revenge for Scar. Obviously she hadn't done anything to deserve the exile and the very least anything that gave her pleasure.
4. Nala is completely carefree and light-hearted about Kiara. Doesn't seem like a loving mother who has lots a child.
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Re: Kopa

Postby Jiirani » January 22nd, 2011, 8:39 pm

SBS is right there. Well said.
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Re: Kopa

Postby dariusgib » January 22nd, 2011, 8:43 pm

*claps* Go SBS!
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Re: Kopa

Postby Misiziri » January 22nd, 2011, 8:47 pm

Meh, I think Simba tried to "Put the past behind him" again with Kopa. And I guess Nala wasn't important enough to SP (Another disappointing fact of the film) so they didn't make her appear that much, giving her an "Absentee mother" ident. Maybe I need to rethink the whole "Zira killed Kopa!" story. Maybe Simba THOUGHT she killed him, when she didn't. Anyway, it is just a movie and it doesn't make absolutely perfect sense right down the last detail. But i still think Kopa fits in with the story, and still support him as canon. Peace :beanytagnuka:
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Re: Kopa

Postby Misiziri » January 22nd, 2011, 8:48 pm

Btw, Who is the lion in that icon after "Peace" in my previous post?
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Re: Kopa

Postby Jiirani » January 22nd, 2011, 9:03 pm

That's Nuka. Before TLK 2 Was finished they released Kovu, Vitani and Nuka plushes and they were all cubs. In the end it was too brutal for a cub to be killed, so they changed it and made Nuka a teen. The plushes were all called back, naturally. Only a few lucky people have them
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