To Catch a Thief...

Re: To Catch a Thief...

Postby SuperBabySimba » January 5th, 2011, 1:37 am

[quote="SnowyCheetah"]Here's an example:

In real life, lions age in way A. In the TLK world, they age in way B. If we're discussing how the lions in TLK age, we need to be referring to way B instead of way A, because referring to way A will get us an incorrect answer, or none at all.[/quote]

What is the way B? And where has it been confirmed that it isn't the way A in TLK?

Oh, and one more question: How can we be sure all the different storywriters used the same B way? What if there are Cs and Ds? TLK's makers had their way, SP's makers may have had their own, the books are all written by random, outsider people who may have had no links to the film makers,and who thus may have had their own ways. I think it would be most clearest and reliable to just assume that they all stuck to the way A. After all, the way A would do no harm to their stories?
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Re: To Catch a Thief...

Postby SnowyCheetah » January 5th, 2011, 5:21 pm

[quote="SuperBabySimba"]What is the way B? And where has it been confirmed that it isn't the way A in TLK?[/quote]

The way B is whatever way the subject in question (age process, for example) works in the edition of TLK one is talking about. If that way just happens to be way A, then A and B would be one in the same and in that case, one could apply real-life knowledge and facts while thinking or debating about that particular aspect of the TLK world.

[quote="SuperBabySimba"]How can we be sure all the different storywriters used the same B way? What if there are Cs and Ds? TLK's makers had their way, SP's makers may have had their own, the books are all written by random, outsider people who may have had no links to the film makers,and who thus may have had their own ways.[/quote]

We can't be sure they all used the same B way, or didn't sometimes use the A (real life) way.

[quote="SuperBabySimba"]I think it would be most clearest and reliable to just assume that they all stuck to the way A. After all, the way A would do no harm to their stories?[/quote]

Clearer, maybe. But hardly reliable and if anything, much less reliable. Try putting regular petrol into a diesel truck and see how reliable it is lol, because that's pretty much the same as trying to use real-life processes to figure out the processes of a made-up world. Every edition of TLK, whether it be another film, another book or another comic, seems to have a different set of B ways, C ways, and so on, and so to be accurate in terms of the worlds the plots of those editions take place in, we must figure out the aspects of each. It may be time-consuming if you're trying to figure out a lot, but it's certainly going to produce more accurate results than trying to apply way A when way B, C, D or so on may be what that world uses.
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Re: To Catch a Thief...

Postby SuperBabySimba » January 5th, 2011, 6:35 pm

[quote="SnowyCheetah"][quote="SuperBabySimba"]I think it would be most clearest and reliable to just assume that they all stuck to the way A. After all, the way A would do no harm to their stories?[/quote]

Clearer, maybe. But hardly reliable and if anything, much less reliable. Try putting regular petrol into a diesel truck and see how reliable it is lol, because that's pretty much the same as trying to use real-life processes to figure out the processes of a made-up world. Every edition of TLK, whether it be another film, another book or another comic, seems to have a different set of B ways, C ways, and so on, and so to be accurate in terms of the worlds the plots of those editions take place in, we must figure out the aspects of each. It may be time-consuming if you're trying to figure out a lot, but it's certainly going to produce more accurate results than trying to apply way A when way B, C, D or so on may be what that world uses.[/quote]

Each and every TLK edition/world uses the same unrealistic aspects of talking lions, human-like gestures, human emotions for them, kingdom monarchy, and so on. And each have the same design eyes, eyeborws and such. Right?

Yet you're sure that in general, in other than behaviour terms, the way A (real life) point of view is much less reliable if reliable at all. Thus you sound like you've already done your more indepth figurations on each and every edition, becoming convinced that some TLK worlds are definately not using the way A.

So, out of curiosity; which of the worlds are they and how do the differing ways show in them?
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Re: To Catch a Thief...

Postby SnowyCheetah » January 5th, 2011, 10:02 pm

[quote="SuperBabySimba"]Thus you sound like you've already done your more indepth figurations on each and every edition, becoming convinced that some TLK worlds are definately not using the way A.

So, out of curiosity; which of the worlds are they and how do the differing ways show in them?[/quote]

I haven't done indepth figurations on each and every edition; I only touched upon the possibility of different sets of unrealistic aspects in different editions of TLK (or rather, the fictitious worlds in which the editions take place) because you suggested that it might be so. All I had to do to notice that the TLK worlds' realities may not be the same as those of our world was read some of the threads on this board and notice that a lot of things between both worlds didn't add up. I haven't ever delved far enough into this to actually notice differences in the sets of realities each world has/uses.
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Re: To Catch a Thief...

Postby Jiirani » January 5th, 2011, 10:13 pm

Well, to be far, did the creators of TLK actually ever say they were aging their characters like lions in real life would age?
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Re: To Catch a Thief...

Postby SnowyCheetah » January 5th, 2011, 10:18 pm

[quote="Jiirani"]Well, to be far, did the creators of TLK actually ever say they were aging their characters like lions in real life would age?[/quote]

Whether or not they tried, they don't seem to have accurately done that.
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Re: To Catch a Thief...

Postby Jiirani » January 5th, 2011, 10:35 pm

I 've noticed with all the talk around here.... I suppose we don't really know if they actually tried :/
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Re: To Catch a Thief...

Postby SnowyCheetah » January 5th, 2011, 10:44 pm

Good point. All the more reason not to always try to apply real-life information to the TLK world.
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Re: To Catch a Thief...

Postby SuperBabySimba » January 5th, 2011, 10:54 pm

[quote="Jiirani"]Well, to be far, did the creators of TLK actually ever say they were aging their characters like lions in real life would age?[/quote]

Not that I know of. But they didn't deny it either.

The reason why I personally concider the real life aging point of view as a bit more reliable than randomly guessing some fictional way: while real life point of view, in my opinion, makes the storylines clearer and better approachable - there is also how the TLK films are not a cartoon tv series or soap opera series wherein characters may age five years in two weeks just to serve whatever new exciting idea a script writer thought of the night before. They are films which production focused on what they wanted of the story and characters and of the plot lines for the entity of the story from the film's beginning to its end, attempting to tell us a story which must have some sort of a solid timeline a viewer can figure out by the literal facts they state through the characters and draw into the film.
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Re: To Catch a Thief...

Postby SnowyCheetah » January 6th, 2011, 12:43 am

I never said to randomly guess. One needs to try to figure out based on the happenings of the film how ages work (in the film) if they wish to understand age-related aspects of the film.
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