Fluffy?

[SummerSnowLeopard]

I beleive that Fluffy is Kopa but I DON'T beleive that Zira murdered him. I beleive that Zira kidnapped Kopa and put him in a nieghboring Pride. Simba thought that Zira killed him so...she was banished and now Simba is overpretective of Kiara.

I don't know if its just cause I don't wanna except the fact that Kopa might be dead

[SuperBabySimba]

Are you guys sure the word "believe" is the correct to use? I mean, prefering to personally think against a fact is one thing, but 'to believe' is quite a strong concept.

To personally prefer a certain identity and thinking by it is like saying 'Ok, it's not really Kopa but I personally see it as Kopa anyway'. But to dowright believe Fluffy is Kopa, is like saying 'Fluffy's creators are wrong.' As in, it's like saying they don't know what's in their own vision. It's impossible. They can't be wrong about what they themselves created.

As in, I can't grasp the idea how can a person believe against a fact. Believes can only exist as long as there are no facts to seal the truth. After a fact is laid down, believes automatically change into personal preferences and nothing more or less.

[Ushujaa]

[quote="SuperBabySimba"] I can't grasp the idea how can a person believe against a fact. Believes can only exist as long as there are no facts to seal the truth. After a fact is laid down, believes automatically change into personal preferences and nothing more or less.[/quote]

i thought you said you were polite and respectful

[quote="SuperBabySimba"] as far as I see, usually polite and respectful.[/quote]

you sir just contradicted yourself and should do well to remember that there are other opinions then your own.

also i agree with QV just so i stay on topic...

[SuperBabySimba]

[quote="Ushujaa"][quote="SuperBabySimba"] I can't grasp the idea how can a person believe against a fact. Believes can only exist as long as there are no facts to seal the truth. After a fact is laid down, believes automatically change into personal preferences and nothing more or less.[/quote]

i thought you said you were polite and respectful

[quote="SuperBabySimba"] as far as I see, usually polite and respectful.[/quote]

you sir just contradicted yourself and should do well to remember that there are other opinions then your own.[/quote]

Please noet the word 'usually' in there, which gives room for exceptions because no one can be polite and respectful all the time and at every turn. The point is, I make efforts to be.

And in that quote, I just state what I can't comprehend and explain why I can't. I don't see where do I claim there aren't other opinions on the matter? I didn't even claim mine would be a fact. You were, and are free to post your own opinion on the matter I brought up, and post an argument to it if you want. You keep misinterpreting my posts. Know that I say what I mean, thus if I don't literally say that I think there are no other opinions than mine, then that's not what I mean. Although, I admit sometimes I don't manage to bring my means/points out clearly enough.

[SummerSnowLeopard]

Okay people. Fluffy = Kopa NOT Kiara.


And on another note: Arguments = FUN!!!

[SuperBabySimba]

[quote="QueenVitani"]Okay people. Fluffy = Kopa NOT Kiara.


And on another note: Arguments = FUN!!! [/quote]

They're more fun if you actually also seriously consider the arguments you receive. You should try it some time instead of just holding on to your own personal wishes. (:

[Jiirani]

I agree with SBS, considering Fluffy = Fluffy, a character that doesn't really excist, consedering it's a joke name and the cub turns into Kiara in the end, Kopa = Kopa and Kiara = Kiara [Or Fluffy]

[Chumvikingpride]

I understand less and less, kiara or fluffy?

[SuperBabySimba]

[quote="Chumvikingpride"]I understand less and less, kiara or fluffy?[/quote]

It is Kiara.

In its own film it is Fluffy because Kiara didn't exist back then. But in the entity of the movie universe it is Kiara because Fluffy isn't a real identity and the commentary track was made and published before Kiara existed so of course they couldn't confirm it as Kiara. (:

[Chumvikingpride]

Thank you very much