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Re: Kopa

Postby FlipMode » December 21st, 2010, 11:42 am

He is quite an interesting character, I find it quite interesting to think about how he would have been portrayed if he was Simbas cub in TLKII.
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Re: Kopa

Postby crystally » December 21st, 2010, 12:47 pm

[quote="SuperBabySimba"][quote="crystally"]The books are made by Disney too, right? How come Disney animators didn't know about it, then? When you're being transfered to a new project, I'd think you'd get at least a summary of the project and whatnot... I think they knew the books exist, but ignored it on purpose.[/quote]

No, I really don't think they are. The people who created Kopa, aren't actually part of the company itself; the book department of Walt Disney Company seems to approve whatever books they think worthy of publishing from numerous, professional childrens' books' writers. As far as it can be concluded from the colourful, itself-contradicting book universe, Disney didn't even ask for Kopa and Kopa wasn't created by Disney but by outsiders who then offered the copyrights for Disney - and Disney decided to take them as well as of numerous different story books and characters who contradict each others.

As in, Walt Disney Company doesn't create their book universe but leave it to outsider childrens' book authors, and the book department people form the universe out of seperate, contradicting stories and thus aren't even trying to connect them to the movie universe in any official way.

Thus, there is no reason what-so-ever, why the Walt Disney Animators should be notified of any of the books approved into the book universe and there is no reason why they should pay attention to it themselves. There's no reason why they should even care because even though those books and their characters by the publishing are Disney characters, they're still created and developed by non-Disney people and Walt Disney Animation has always had the preference of making movies with their own creativity and original characters, or alternatively based on stories that aren't Disney already.

So I'm pretty sute that if the film makers even knew about the books, they didn't care because they're not Disney books throughly enough. They're basically just books and characters Disney holds copyright for but has no obligations to use anywhere, especially not in order to make sense for what is actually their own creation.[/quote]

How do you know about this? Are you positive it wasn't Disney who wrote the book?
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Re: Kopa

Postby Algi » December 21st, 2010, 2:58 pm

Hmmm... I don't think so... :) Maybe Disney wrote that book, maybe not, because i never went to Disney. :) ;)

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Re: Kopa

Postby Ushujaa » December 24th, 2010, 4:19 am

Kopa is the coolest character in TLK and should have been in SP it's really to bad they didn't keep him around.

He will always be canon to me no matter what people say.
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Re: Kopa

Postby Simbaholikov » December 24th, 2010, 5:08 am

Kopa is definitely awesome. :) He really should've been in SP over Kiara, it's a shame we didn't see more of him..

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Re: Kopa

Postby SuperBabySimba » December 24th, 2010, 10:50 am

[quote="Algi"]Hmmm... I don't think so... :) Maybe Disney wrote that book, maybe not, because i never went to Disney. :) ;)

SORRY MY ENGLISH BAD :([/quote]

You don't have to go to Disney to know they didn't write them. Yesterday, I already answered crystally's question in the topic about Scar. That yes, I'm 100% positive that Disney didn't write the books.

I know they weren't written by Disney because I do my research well.

Here, I copy & paste my evidence from the Scar thread. :)

Alex Simmons, the author of the FIRST book in the "Disney's The Lion King: Six New Adventures" series ("A Tale of Two Brothers") and thus the creator of Kopa, does not work at the Walt Disney Company. He is a writer, actor, playwright, voice-over talent, speaker, and teaching artist who has his own clients and associations and writes for numerous different companies.
"Simmons has written three movie novelizations for Disney..." Disney didn't write them. It released them.
>> Alex Simmons personal web site <<
And this page of his site makes clear that that novel is his original story based on the hit film. As in he created and wrote it and then gave to Disney to make money of and to entertain kids.

I think it would be fairly pointless to go into detail with the rest of the book series' authors. You can research them if you will and find out that they are just professional childrens' book authors whho create and write for those who pay for it, including but not mainly, for Disney.

Nothing about that book series came from Disney except the film(s) the books base on. (And likely nothing about any of the books in the book universe that totally contradicts itself.) Disney just slammed its stamp on them so that it could make money with it and do whatever the heck it wants with them, and apparently Disney wanted nothing more but money out of them as the film makers didn't approve them but denied Kopa's existence in the movie universe.

crystally also questioned "How did several professional writers wrote separate books in TLK6NA and all have named characters like Kopa and Taka the same? Surely they got it from somewhere if they use the same names."

Because by the time the second book was to be written, Disney held copyrights for those characters Simmons had created. Disney may have wanted a book series all along but Simmons and no one wanted to write it all, or Disney wanted each part written by a different author, for whatever reason. The key facts are that Alex Simmons started the book series while he wasn't part of Walt Disney Company and the novel is his original story and not Disney's idea or work at any point (apart from the outlines the film gives.) It wouldn't be his original story based on the hit film, if Disney provided him with anything more than the film itself.
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Re: Kopa

Postby Jiirani » December 24th, 2010, 12:16 pm

It's true, Disney didn't write any of the books, as far as i'm aware. Kopa wasn't even considered for SP, there was only Shani (Changed to Kiara) And Chaka considered. Kopa would have been an awesome character in SP, I love Kopa personally, but Disney had nothing to do with him :/ The cub at the end of TLK was a boy though :s
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Re: Kopa

Postby xLilacVixenx » December 24th, 2010, 12:20 pm

[quote="Jiirani"] The cub at the end of TLK was a boy though :s[/quote]

Are you sure of that? Because if you are looking at the gender differences for The Lion King {i.e the hair tuft and color}, it is not correct. I believe that all the baby cubs have little hair tufts, even the females. If you look at these images:

Baby from The Lion King:

http://www.mylionking.com/resources/sit ... ab_850.jpg

You can see the little hair tuft. But if also look at Kiara as a baby...

Baby Kiara:

http://www.mylionking.com/resources/sit ... ab_018.jpg

She has the hair tuft also.
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Re: Kopa

Postby dariusgib » December 24th, 2010, 12:24 pm

i believe the cub at the end is a boy and Kopa
but then i dont want another essay from SuperCub
so unless Kopa is in a LK film all these things mean nothing sadly
the only place Kopa will exhist is in the books, fan fics and are hearts and minds.
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Re: Kopa

Postby Jiirani » December 24th, 2010, 12:32 pm

[quote="xLilacVixenx"]
Are you sure of that? Because if you are looking at the gender differences for The Lion King {i.e the hair tuft and color}, it is not correct. I believe that all the baby cubs have little hair tufts, even the females. If you look at these images:

Baby from The Lion King:

http://www.mylionking.com/resources/sit ... ab_850.jpg

You can see the little hair tuft. But if also look at Kiara as a baby...

Baby Kiara:

http://www.mylionking.com/resources/sit ... ab_018.jpg

She has the hair tuft also.[/quote]

There is a original book based on The Lion King by Disney, it's the TLK storybook. At the end it says that Rafiki holds up Simba's son specifically.
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