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Re: Kopa

Postby Ushujaa » December 17th, 2010, 2:29 am

Kopa is my favorite TLK character...
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Re: Kopa

Postby lionman » December 17th, 2010, 4:40 am

kopa is cool, ;)....................... :kopa2:
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Re: Kopa

Postby Algi » December 17th, 2010, 6:11 am

From book like that can make the big question and new character on Lion King... I wonder how can Kopa is created and inserted into Prideland family, and may create controversy for the fans with the others fans?? I think maybe we must take the main storyline about Kopa from the author. So we will know who is he and where he come from, and other things about Kopa. So we can know him without any question like: who is the Kopa mate, or anything that will make the new controversy, okay?? ;)

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Re: Kopa

Postby crystally » December 17th, 2010, 11:44 am

Kopa looks a bit like Simba's mini-me in TLKNA, imo. Cute lol :girly:
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Re: Kopa

Postby Algi » December 17th, 2010, 12:56 pm

[quote="crystally"]Kopa looks a bit like Simba's mini-me in TLKNA, imo. Cute lol :girly:[/quote]

Haha!! Of course he's so cute when he was a cub. But i don't have any picture about Adult Kopa. :)
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Re: Kopa

Postby PrincessKiara » December 17th, 2010, 10:55 pm

I love to read TLK books and comics, and I really enjoy the non-movie characters, such as Kopa.

To avoid confusion about Kopa/Kiara, I think it`s good to view the books/comics and the movies as two different universes. The OFFICIAL story from the movies is that Simba has one cub: Kiara, a girl.

It`s important to remember that when the TLK6NA books were written, SP was not even thought of. And, as it`s already been mentioned in this thread, the Disney animators probably don`t even know anything about TLK books, and so they know nothing of Kopa and other cubs from books and comics.

When Disney decided to make a sequel to The Lion King, they had to make Simbas cub a girl in order for the plot to work out. If you look at the cub at the end of TLK, I think it looks like a male. The gender of this cub is never proven in the movie however, and when TLK was made, the birth of the new cub just marked the "..the Circle of Life continues, and Simba and Nala lived happily ever after" moment. So it was easy to make Simbas cub a girl when a sequel was being written, because in the MOVIE TLK it`s never stated that Simba had a son.

I`m a fan/supporter of Kopa, but the fact of the matter is that he doesn`t appear in the movies, just in a series of books. As far as Disney Animation Studios is concerned, Kiara is the only cub of Simba and Nala. The books/comics are not written by the people who work on the movies, and so they contradict the movies they`re based on, and sometimes even eachother.

So yeah, like I said.. Think of the movies and books as two different universes. Trying to fit Kopa into the movie plot won`t work because he`s not a part of that story. It`s the same as trying to explain where Zira was in TLK. Simple: She didn`t exist when TLK was made, she (and Nuka, Vitani, Kovu and Kiara) were made especially for the sequel.

Sorry for the long post.. Again, I`m a huge fan of TLK comics/books, and I support Kopa, it`s just a matter of remembering that the books and movies are two very different things.
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Re: Kopa

Postby crystally » December 18th, 2010, 5:42 am

The books are made by Disney too, right? How come Disney animators didn't know about it, then? When you're being transfered to a new project, I'd think you'd get at least a summary of the project and whatnot... I think they knew the books exist, but ignored it on purpose.
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Re: Kopa

Postby Pixie » December 18th, 2010, 7:29 am

I think they were made by Dinsey, but they were two different things, so Kopa wasn't considered because he wasn't part of the film universe.
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Re: Kopa

Postby SuperBabySimba » December 18th, 2010, 11:21 am

[quote="crystally"]The books are made by Disney too, right? How come Disney animators didn't know about it, then? When you're being transfered to a new project, I'd think you'd get at least a summary of the project and whatnot... I think they knew the books exist, but ignored it on purpose.[/quote]

No, I really don't think they are. The people who created Kopa, aren't actually part of the company itself; the book department of Walt Disney Company seems to approve whatever books they think worthy of publishing from numerous, professional childrens' books' writers. As far as it can be concluded from the colourful, itself-contradicting book universe, Disney didn't even ask for Kopa and Kopa wasn't created by Disney but by outsiders who then offered the copyrights for Disney - and Disney decided to take them as well as of numerous different story books and characters who contradict each others.

As in, Walt Disney Company doesn't create their book universe but leave it to outsider childrens' book authors, and the book department people form the universe out of seperate, contradicting stories and thus aren't even trying to connect them to the movie universe in any official way.

Thus, there is no reason what-so-ever, why the Walt Disney Animators should be notified of any of the books approved into the book universe and there is no reason why they should pay attention to it themselves. There's no reason why they should even care because even though those books and their characters by the publishing are Disney characters, they're still created and developed by non-Disney people and Walt Disney Animation has always had the preference of making movies with their own creativity and original characters, or alternatively based on stories that aren't Disney already.

So I'm pretty sute that if the film makers even knew about the books, they didn't care because they're not Disney books throughly enough. They're basically just books and characters Disney holds copyright for but has no obligations to use anywhere, especially not in order to make sense for what is actually their own creation.
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Re: Kopa

Postby Algi » December 18th, 2010, 11:52 am

The other thing about Kopa that make me confuse is, the author of that book copying the TLK movie, and make new creation for the additional character. Then, we know that many Kopa fans in here, but he's only the external character.

Hey, what the Storyline do you choose? The Book or the other? I ask like that for the other. I will use that storyline only for Kopa. ;)
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