SUGGESTION TIME! YEAH!!

[WildSimba]

So this is only a suggestion so don't take it so hard, man. But, I was thinking, cause I saw it on some other forum (that long inspired), that there can be a password protected forum for just plain spam. Maybe this board can be one where you'd have to be invited by a mod, and it doesn't increment post counts. I was only thinking this, because there's some really nasty spam in the den, that kinda just pops up as soon as you enter the forum.

Maybe you can also put a few little goodies and stuff in there. I know it'd be cool if you had like a secret scavenger hunt or something.

Just a suggestion, ya know.

[Azdgari]

Hreeeeeem? Don't we already have a topic for spam? Why should we need a whole forum? =P

[TheRoguePrince]

Ya, a whole spam forum, dang.

[WildSimba]

I meant for some of the more spammy threads people post in the den, not a topic meant for spam. As I said, it could be a password protected forum, which would only be given upon invitation. Of course it wouldn't increment your post count.

@TheRoguePrince - The Den is sorta a whole forum just for spam. I was just trying to suggest a way to make it a little more private, because it is kinda something you don't really want everyone - guests, and members alike to see everytime they click on the forum.

[TheRoguePrince]

I wouldn't know, being as I joined like 8 days ago. I do try though.

[Azdgari]

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Den isn't just for spam... spam is short pointless annoying messages (or something in that ballpark xD). The den is a general off-topic forum... Maybe we have different perceptions of spam. Running down the list of topics, which ones do you see as spam?

I think that it really is fine. It's not like guests are going to run through each individual forum and say "I see a spam post, I'm not joining!". In fact, as a guest I'd be even more put off at an exclusive forum like that. What dictates who is allowed in? Creating an invitational forum would almost certainly lead to conflict over who gets let in. Imagine any discontent around who gets a den and then magnify it times three. People will want to see what's going on in there and won't be too happy they aren't allowed in.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. In my opinion, things are running pretty smoothly as they are, aren't they?

[TheRoguePrince]

We fix unbroken things too often in the real world. Look what happens to us.

[WildSimba]

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Den isn't just for spam... spam is short pointless annoying messages (or something in that ballpark xD). The den is a general off-topic forum... Maybe we have different perceptions of spam. Running down the list of topics, which ones do you see as spam?

I think that it really is fine. It's not like guests are going to run through each individual forum and say "I see a spam post, I'm not joining!". In fact, as a guest I'd be even more put off at an exclusive forum like that. What dictates who is allowed in? Creating an invitational forum would almost certainly lead to conflict over who gets let in. Imagine any discontent around who gets a den and then magnify it times three. People will want to see what's going on in there and won't be too happy they aren't allowed in.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. In my opinion, things are running pretty smoothly as they are, aren't they?

The being let in or not thing was not really that big of an issue on the last forum. The same thing can go for any other board/section that you'd have to be invited to get into/get in general. This whole conflict was obviously for the most part avoided by staff with the member rooms. I mean, if your really a good member and deserve to get in, then are they really going to hold you back if you really want to see it?

Yes, spam is stupid pointless annoying messages, and I see plenty of it in The Den. It's advertised as a General forum, but it tends to get very spammy, and that does make it took unprofessional. I know, before I join a forum, I lurk around a little bit. In fact, most forums make it a point that you need to lurk more, in order to get down some things that should not have to be asked. If most people lurk, and see a bunch of spam in the forum, even if it's in one section, they of course will not want to join.

As it turns out, the spam is very bad on this forum. A lot of the time, when it appears it will eigther turn into an arquement, or will turn members against eachother. The Den certainly isn't the only place I've seen spam in, but The Den seems to be the Headquarters of where it lies.

[TheRoguePrince]

If it's causing this much confrontation then it needs to be addressed. This forum is meant for addressing the matters of TLK not fighting about them.

[Azdgari]

Where is it very bad, man? I don't see it. =P

Maybe we have different views of spam. If people get off topic for a few posts and are goofing off, that's not spam in my opinion. That's people being people and having fun with one another, and that's pretty much accepted here as far as I can tell. I wouldn't want to be here if it wasn't.

And I guess we'll have to disagree on the forum thing. I'm pretty confident that creating a secret password protected forum where only staff-selected members are allowed to go will create conflict or at the very least resentment among members that believe they should be let in too.

And again, is it really worth it? It'd be going through a pretty extensive process (move all 'spam' topics out of den, make the new forum, create the rules for it, decide how members are chosen, deal with disputes, etc) simply because a prospective new member would lurk through, see a few off topic posts and then judge the entire forum based on it.

Rogue, we're not fighting. =P This is a thoughtful discussion, at least that's how I see it. I'm certainly not angry with WS at all--he threw out an idea and I'm giving my opinion on it. What's wrong with that? ^^