Did Zira want to be saved?

Re: Did Zira want to be saved?

Postby TheRoguePrince » August 10th, 2010, 6:01 pm

Ya, Zira didn't want help. :oops:
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Re: Did Zira want to be saved?

Postby PrinceTaka » August 10th, 2010, 9:56 pm

I see the swipe more of a attempt to drag Kiara also down. Wouldn't been so nice to Kovu or to Simba to lose his daughter whom he was so overprotective over.

If we drag the fan-theories in here too, Simba would've been very disappointed over himself to lose his cub for the second time AND both Kopa and Kiara to Zira, Nala would've been heartbroken to have lost her second cub too.
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Re: Did Zira want to be saved?

Postby TheRoguePrince » August 11th, 2010, 5:30 pm

And lets not forget that the oneness of the Pride was hingeing on the love of Kovu and Kiara, her death would have screwed that up. :sad:
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Re: Did Zira want to be saved?

Postby Momotaro » August 14th, 2010, 3:25 pm

If we were talking about the deleted scene version of Zira's death, she did not want to be saved. But in the version that was in the actual movie, I think she was trying to grab Kiara's paw, but her claws couldn't hold on any longer, so she fell down. But that's just my opinon. :P
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Re: Did Zira want to be saved?

Postby TheRoguePrince » August 14th, 2010, 11:28 pm

That's what I thought, but the way Kiara reacted was either defensive or cruel. Come on, offering help then moving your paw. That's not very princess like.
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Re: Did Zira want to be saved?

Postby Amy43 » August 16th, 2010, 8:02 pm

It's a tough call. I've always believed that Zira thought that she was "too good" to be saved by Kiara, and that she would be brought to a "lower level" if she was saved by her. Maybe she knew that if she lived, she would be over ruled by the other lions, and that she would lose the battle anyway. What do you think?
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Re: Did Zira want to be saved?

Postby TheRoguePrince » August 17th, 2010, 1:22 pm

She reached a point of indecision near the end but it was already too late. Her hate got her killed.
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Re: Did Zira want to be saved?

Postby Rabi » August 19th, 2010, 9:28 am

In my opinion, her pride couldn't let her be saved by an enemy (Kiara) She WANTED to die, not to be saved by someone like ....that stupid princess ;P
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Re: Did Zira want to be saved?

Postby PrinceTaka » August 19th, 2010, 5:32 pm

tlp556backup wrote:If we were talking about the deleted scene version of Zira's death, she did not want to be saved. But in the version that was in the actual movie, I think she was trying to grab Kiara's paw, but her claws couldn't hold on any longer, so she fell down. But that's just my opinon. :P


Even in the actual movie version it seems that she is laughing when falling down: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtPjZManzsc. Just stop at the right time (about 5:56), it may take some time but you'll see it.

Anyone willig to take a screencap from their DVD which shows her face at close as possible when she falls down?
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Re: Did Zira want to be saved?

Postby LionKing4EVR96 » August 19th, 2010, 5:38 pm

Zira might have wanted to be saved, but when she did, she was far too down the cliff that she was doomed.
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