New episode 'Lions of the outlands'?

[Elton John]

Thing is, if we are to believe that Nuka, Vitani and Kovu are siblings.... then Scar is the dad. Some throwaway line because michael eisner thought kovu and kiara being cousins being wierd due to their human nature doesn't sit well with me.

1: Members of royal families were highly incestual until just recently (the past 100 years?). Gotta keep the bloodline pure.
2: marrying a cousin was not taboo until recently as well.
3: the three look like they are Scar and Zira's cubs.
4: who else would be their father? Who is this non-existant male? I mean it took them 22 years to give Nala a daddy who wasn't Mufasa.If there are more males in the pride....where are they? If Scar is Nala's dad then that makes an already super creepy deleted scene even creepier.

.....or maybe tlk2 has more holes than swiss cheese.

[zerodix]

there will be another scene with these (sorry i find them look like stupid toddler draws) cave paintings where all this will be explained.

[gothprincesskiara]

Dont forget in paintings and predictions, Nala cant be scars Daughter anymore, remember at the and of that episode that show Nalas father being saved by the lion guard, and that was not Scar.

[Elton John]

I just think they should have addressed who Nala's father was in the first movie. Their line of reasoning as to was 'nobody would notice'. A lot of people noticed. And now, a lot of people think that simba and nala are siblings.

[Hatari05]

Nala's father has nothing to do with her character even if it did we know she's not related to Simba. She has a different mother who Mufasa is never with seen and Simba specifically says she's my friend I mean that pretty clearly answers it they they would know if they were related. The father of Nuka, Vitani, and Kovu doesn't matter it doesn't effect any of them as characters. You're making a big deal out of something that is not a big deal and doesn't really need to be explained but if it must well then okay I'll explain it.

Scar had his own group of followers that Zira was part of she loved him and was his most devoted follower he then selected Kovu a cub who resembled him as his heir, Zira being loyal to Scar even in death resulted in her being exiled along with whoever remained with her. Zira trained Kovu to be follow in Scar's paw prints while molding Vitani into a soldier. The attention Kovu was getting resulted in Nuka feeling like Kovu being the chosen one stole his mother's love from him and resented him for it this drove Nuka to desperately try to get her attention. That's the story people a few things are missing but that's it and it's completely true, maybe Zira was his mate maybe she wasn't, maybe Nuka was his son maybe he wasn't, we know for certain Kovu wasn't, maybe they killed his parents maybe his parents abandoned him.

Still what I put is the story it's what happened so it's not a plot hole where were they maybe they were there turning on the pride after the battle began or maybe they were away hunting. Maybe there were only a select few and Zira built them into an army after being exiled. There are explanations so it's not a plot hole even more so this is very likely the kind of explanation you will get. I'm not here to debate about LK II nor am I going to but a lot of people say it doesn't make sense but it does if you take the facts you are given it makes sense you have to fill in a few gaps but as my explanation shows it does actually make sense regardless if you know their father or not just like Nala's character makes complete sense despite knowing her father. If it's not enough I guess that's your choice and there's nothing wrong with it.

[ScarXZira10889]

Guys, I might have missed something out but take a look at this bit from the "Lions of the outlands preview and take a look at these two pictures that look like Nuka! I wonder why he has a yellow ring around him!??? Also, the Lions beside him are kind of only looking at him.

[TTB-Kun]

in the first picture that's 100% zira the one in the middle of the 2 lionesses, probably the first part of the rafiki's story when he tell that she is the leader of the outlanders

[ScarXZira10889]

Hmm... Possibly but I'm guessing that Zira's colours would have been lighter as we can see from the picture below who she is with an unknown male.

[Carl]

The picture below has cheeks far too round to be Zira.

[Panpardus]

Okay, so the lion flanked by the other two is clearly just Zira, the light is just emphasizing that she's the ruler of the Outsiders. The second picture is just she and Scar sitting on Pride Rock, implying that he took her as his queen at some point. If we're going to judge based solely off of pictures, the Nuka design in the cave painting features his scruffy mane and has a deeper reddish tint; the lions in the first image don't show either, so it's pretty clearly supposed to be Zira. I doubt we're getting any more backstory in this episode than just a better-explained version of what was in Simba's Pride because it's only a 22-minute show and all the unfamiliar audience (and Kion) really needs to know is the basic context as to why the Outsiders exist in the first place; as such I'm pretty sure there isn't anything radically different or out of the blue being depicted in those images.