What are you thinking RIGHT NOW?

[Daenerys]

let’s spend this 4th of july to recognise and commend the brave historical figure who gave our fair america her freedom. connor kenway. god bless and amen.

You know AC isn't real, right?

lol

[Carl]

Alright, no need to get all snippy.

The colonists were paying for a global war. Of course they were in it, but the seven years war had multiple theaters. It wasn't just in America, and it wasn't just about the Brits fighting the French and Indians. The colonists were part of the British empire fighting a war for the British empire.

Of course the Brits wanted the Americans to pay their taxes, but my point is that it was never about the taxes at all. It was about representation. If the king had listened to the colonists, they would have paid their dues and it's possible that the revolution wouldn't have happened.

That's what people are taught in regular school, because it's the version that makes America look better. If you read beyond that, you'll learn that's a bending of the truth, but I'm honestly done arguing about this because no American ever wants to hear the truth. No, this country is not totally bad; there are many good things about it. But you have to be able to admit when it did wrong and it seems no one ever will.

I guess the Japanese interment camps in WW2 that gave Hitler some of his ideas for the "solution" to the "Jewish Question" wasn't a thing either. That's another one most people like to deny.

If you wanna be super patriotic to the point of ignoring history, be my guest. Ignorance is bliss, after all.

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I should have known my good feelings would be ruined today. Just when I was feeling proud of myself for not getting too upset over being completely excluded from everything.

[Regulus]

That's what people are taught in regular school, because it's the version that makes America look better. If you read beyond that, you'll learn that's a bending of the truth, but I'm honestly done arguing about this because no American ever wants to hear the truth. No, this country is not totally bad; there are many good things about it. But you have to be able to admit when it did wrong and it seems no one ever will.

I guess the Japanese interment camps in WW2 that gave Hitler some of his ideas for the "solution" to the "Jewish Question" wasn't a thing either. That's another one most people like to deny.

If you wanna be super patriotic to the point of ignoring history, be my guest. Ignorance is bliss, after all.

In my opinion, you're ignoring the facts to make America look much worse than it actually is.

Let's see. Auschwitz was first operational in May of 1940. The Japanese internment began in 1942, after the attack on Pearl Harbor. Now you tell me, which was first, hmm? How could the Germans have been copying us, when they started long before we did?

And as ugly as that part of our history is, you have to admit: what would you have done? We were at war with the Japanese, and we had Japanese citizens within our own borders. Keeping them locked up was a logical thing to do.

The Japanese, on the other hand, were ambitious, relentless warriors. They had a "fight with honor or die" philosophy. If they couldn't win, they didn't want to live at all. They'd crash their planes into our ships, and even American planes. They imprisoned captured American soldiers, and tortured them. Perhaps you should read up on those stories. The Japanese loved their torture.

The internment camps are just a representation of one simple fact: we are neither no better nor no worse than any other country. Yes, we do dark things... but so does every country. Every civilization does what it needs to do to thrive. For us, that meant locking up those who could have been a threat. Was it right? Hell no. But it was done out of fear. We were at war. It was necessary.

I get the impression that you're trying to paint America as this horrible country that shouldn't exist, and it isn't like that. There are no good guys. There are no bad guys. History is generally written by the winner, yes... but if you look closely, what you'll find is that everyone is equally capable of hate, death, and destruction.

Everyone thinks what they're doing is the right thing, and that's why you find that Americans have a positive view of their country. The Americans thought they were doing what was best for them when they rebelled against the king. The king was doing what was best for him when he fought back against the rebellion. The Germans thought they were doing what was right by killing off inferior people to create a superior society. The Japanese wanted to expand their empire, as they believed the pacific belonged to them. We were attacked, and we sought vengeance for our deceased brethren in Pearl Harbor. A Spartan is going to cheer, "For Sparta!" and die fighting for Sparta, and an Athenian is going to run into battle screaming, "For Athens!"

Who is right? Really?

It's all cultural. To be truly unbiased and impartial, you have to be truly unbiased and impartial. You can't say any one country or race is somehow more or less evil than another.

I try to be fair. I hate all people equally.

[Carl]

^ I keep repeating that there are good things about America. However, I studied the formation of the country very recently and it simply was not founded as people think it was. I KNOW many other countries are just as bad or are worse. But I also know that other countries are BETTER, even if only marginally, and I do know that right now, I do wish it never existed because I was having a good time until I dared to comment on someone's post here and now I apparently can't hear the end of it. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm not going to talk about this crap anymore and if I were you, I would highly consider dropping it and leaving me the hell alone.

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I've been thinking about it for a while now, but maybe it really is time that I leave this place for good.

[Regulus]

Relax, I'm just trying to make a point. Is that really necessary?

[Shadowfax]

Housework done =) Now just need to walk ze doggie then chill at mums for the evening with a BBQ for dinner, yay ^_^

[Tsuki]

Find it hilarious when people over here celebrate Independence Day *rolls eyes*.

[Ninaroja]

^we went to get chips when we were out on Thirsday and when we were walking back to the club at 1AM there were people roaming the streets with American flags tied around their necks - it was rather bizarre

[Buffy]

I should get dressed and do some cleaning.

[Harvs]

YAY NO MORE FIREWORSK!