Justin Bieber/Rebecca Black

[UncoordinatedPisces]

I don't know why I bother with people who still like Bieber for the person he is.

[Luigi Severus]

[quote="Nicholas"]I also love how he told me to grow up while he cries whenever someone insults Bieber.... lol.[/quote]
I'm guessing you're pro-bullying, anyone who calls Justin "gay", "talentless" and makes fun of his looks is a BULLY, just because you don't like his music, doesn't mean you have to jump on a pathetic bandwagon to look "cool", being an anti-Bieber is lame, seriously, that died in 2010, anyone who still does it is just a loser.
Bullying is wrong, no matter who it's directed towards.

And, I thought you were a typical hater, bashing Justin with homophobic insults.

[SlayerOfLight]

[quote="Luigi Severus"][quote="Nicholas"]I also love how he told me to grow up while he cries whenever someone insults Bieber.... lol.[/quote]
I'm guessing you're pro-bullying, anyone who calls Justin "gay", "talentless" and makes fun of his looks is a BULLY, just because you don't like his music, doesn't mean you have to jump on a pathetic bandwagon to look "cool", being an anti-Bieber is lame, seriously, that died in 2010, anyone who still does it is just a loser.
Bullying is wrong, no matter who it's directed towards.[/quote]

I didn't call him gay, but I personally find him a talentless scumbag. That has nothing to do with bullying, it's just my personal opinion. Get over it dude.

[Luigi Severus]

[quote="Nicholas"][quote="Luigi Severus"][quote="Nicholas"]I also love how he told me to grow up while he cries whenever someone insults Bieber.... lol.[/quote]
I'm guessing you're pro-bullying, anyone who calls Justin "gay", "talentless" and makes fun of his looks is a BULLY, just because you don't like his music, doesn't mean you have to jump on a pathetic bandwagon to look "cool", being an anti-Bieber is lame, seriously, that died in 2010, anyone who still does it is just a loser.
Bullying is wrong, no matter who it's directed towards.[/quote]

I didn't call him gay, but I personally find him a talentless scumbag. That has nothing to do with bullying, it's just my personal opinion. Get over it dude.[/quote]

Still considered hateful. I just can't see how he can be talentless if he is so successful. I actually suggest you give him a go, rather than just listening to your friends, or hating him for "Baby", he taught himself to play four instruments, writes most of his songs and can sing really well if that isn't talented, then I don't know what is. It won't make you "gay" if you listen to his music, in fact, it will make you more of a man, because real men aren't afraid to face their fears. I'm not sure if you're into R&B or not, but, his new music is mainly R&B, which I am not a fan of and I don't like his new music as much, but, give him a go, don't listen to the bandwagoners, they only hate him to look "cool", his latest album is "Journals", the songs can be found on YouTube. I give things I previously hated a try and I either like them or hate them, I've liked most "new" things.

[SlayerOfLight]

[quote="Luigi Severus"]Still considered hateful. I just can't see how he can be talentless if he is so successful. I actually suggest you give him a go, rather than just listening to your friends, or hating him for "Baby", he taught himself to play four instruments, writes most of his songs and can sing really well. It won't make you "gay" if you listen to his music, in fact, it will make you more of a man, because real men aren't afraid to face their fears. I'm not sure if you're into R&B or not, but, his new music is mainly R&B, which I am not a fan of and I don't like his new music as much, but, give him a go, don't listen to the bandwagoners, they only hate him to look "cool", his latest album is "Journals", the songs can be found on YouTube. I give things I previously hated a try and I either like them or hate them, I've liked most "new" things.[/quote]

*facepalm*

Look dude I don't care about Bieber, his music is not my cup of tea so I don't have to give that scumbag a go, neither am I into R&B. >_>

[Luigi Severus]

[quote="Nicholas"][quote="Luigi Severus"]Still considered hateful. I just can't see how he can be talentless if he is so successful. I actually suggest you give him a go, rather than just listening to your friends, or hating him for "Baby", he taught himself to play four instruments, writes most of his songs and can sing really well. It won't make you "gay" if you listen to his music, in fact, it will make you more of a man, because real men aren't afraid to face their fears. I'm not sure if you're into R&B or not, but, his new music is mainly R&B, which I am not a fan of and I don't like his new music as much, but, give him a go, don't listen to the bandwagoners, they only hate him to look "cool", his latest album is "Journals", the songs can be found on YouTube. I give things I previously hated a try and I either like them or hate them, I've liked most "new" things.[/quote]

*facepalm*

Look dude I don't care about Bieber, his music is not my cup of tea so I don't have to give that scumbag a go, neither am I into R&B. >_>[/quote]

You're pretty obsessed with him, always whining about him, I'm sorry, but, you are just another sheep, I tried to respect you, but, the only anti-Bieber I have respect for is Angry Grandpa, because he isn't obsessed and he's actually funny.

His haters are what ruined him, and they know they did and they don't want to admit it.
He will still be a better person than you haters anyway, because he's learned from his mistakes and hasn't bullied anyone, you haters are always bullying him. Bieber > Haters.

[SlayerOfLight]

Cry some more please, I no longer give a damn.

[juhouh]

Luigi, I don't think he really cares about his haters. Only thing that matter is money and he seems to be doing well with that right now. If he changed just because of the haters he would lose all of his fangirls and therefore his whole business

Also, you're not letting Nick say his personal opinion. All he tries to state is that he doesn't like JB and you're just fighting back with your pathetic excuses. Looks like you consider everyone as haters who says they don't like him and/or his music

Now tell me do you like Sabaton? If you don't; you're a pathetic hater
^ that's what you sound like. Seriously stop it

[Regulus]

I always hate it when good topics go sour for senseless reasons. It would be a shame if I had to lock this thread.

[Gemini]

[quote="Luigi Severus"]Oh and I just read your bio, you're just like the other mindless sheep that hate him.
Gamer, anime fan, adult male (which is creepy as heck), most likely single and just jealous of Justin.[/quote]

So, I just stumbled upon this thread, and I have to say... wow. I'm sorry, but there's really no room for that on here. People all like their own things, yes? So, what's the big deal? You (and me, and him) like The Lion King - is that childish? It is a movie targeted for children. It's animated. Isn't anime similar, just more... Japanese?

I'm not an anime fan, by the way, but attacking someone based on whether or not they watch Western or Eastern animation, or whether or not they like Justin Beiber or metal, or whatever else, sounds incredibly immature and short-sighted. I don't want to be mean about it, but I do want you to think about what you've said for a moment and ask yourself if it doesn't fit the definition of judgmental.

Moving onward:

[quote="Regulus"]I always hate it when good topics go sour for senseless reasons. It would be a shame if I had to lock this thread.[/quote]

I would hate for that, too. Although I have to admit that, aside from the aforementioned comments from this person, things have been relatively civil. Normally just bringing up the name of Justin Beiber (Bieber? Looks like I've been spelling it wrong for years now ) seems to provoke some sort of firestorm. Honestly, I wish discussions of art/music/movies/etc. weren't so arbitrarily hostile. I mean, whether or not something is 'good' is largely subjective measurement. Yes, there are some commonly-accepted guidelines that determine quality, including the amount of work/effort/thought/talent put into something, but sometimes it really does just come down to personal preference.

Onto the actual discussion:

First, Rebecca Black, since she seems to be the least... controvertible... of the two. To be honest, I haven't heard from her since... what, 2011? To my knowledge, I've only ever heard of like two of her songs, Prom Night and Friday, and they sounded almost the exact same. I didn't really like either, but I will admit that Friday was catchy and, as others have mentioned on this thread, singing "Friday" on Friday to annoy everyone else was popular for probably over a year after its release in high schools across America. Honestly. xD

That said, though, I don't really have any particular issue with her. In the grand scheme of pop culture, she was a little 'blip' that made one or two infamously terrible songs and then disappeared off the face of the Earth forever. As far as I know, she was just some little rich girl (?) whose father made her one music video, or something like that, and it wasn't like she wrote the song or the lyrics either. So, for the most part, she's not really to blame for the whole Friday thing. No use in hating her.

Now, Justin Bieber (!). Oh, boy. This guy's been popular since about 2009 (at least, that's when I first heard of him), and he was... what, 15 at the time? He was kind of like a kid then, and from what I hear, he still acts like it now. (Can't believe he peed in a mop bucket... wtf? o____o) Another example of stardom gone wrong, I guess. That said, though, I don't have any particular problem with his music (at least beyond my general dislike of the modern, manufactured-pop-music genre, which mostly involves glitzy singers who can pop out a tune with hardly any involvement in its production. Needless to say, the fact that most of them can't even play an instrument and probably have little to no knowledge of music kind of bothers me ). I haven't really listened to much of Bieber, though, and I don't really keep up with what him and the other stars are doing, so that may be why I'm (relatively) indifferent. It's just not really my cup of tea. I think both the haters who just hate him because it's the popular thing to do (ie, the actual flamers, not people who dislike him and his music for an actual reason) and the fangirls take this whole war to a way, WAY too extreme level. I mean, honestly, girls, he's not THAT attractive, is he?

Oh, and PS:

[quote="KingMoto"]Ah well, at least we have Within Temptation, Hollywood Undead, Fall Out Boy, and many more to rely on.[/quote]

This comment deserves an award. lol

PPS I've left the 100th comment!