SnowyCheetah, so have you and other Kopa fans. You've repeated the same opinions and interpretation a 1000+ times. So, fix your own broken record, or stop complaining about mine.
FlipMode wrote:SuperBabySimba wrote:Azdgari wrote:Kopa was ignored and they instead used Kiara because a female cub fit the story they wanted.
I can't see that as the reason. Because their story's essence is Romeo & Juliet and they could've just as easily made Simba & Nala "Romeo"'s parents and Zira "Juliet"'s parent (as she had a daufgrer anyway.) So, I'm guessing the reason for making Fluffy a girl is something else.
Yeah they could have just as easily, but they did not and this makes what Azdgari said more likely true.
Just saying that if they could just as easily made Simbas Cub a male, and Zira's female then by that same point the same applies the other way around and happens to be what they chose to do.
If there is another reason for making Fluffy a girl, then what could it be?
I already suggested in another post. Perhaps they simply wanted to take refreshing point of view (seeing to TLK story) or just generally make the storyline colourful by having one movie about a Pridelenader prince and one about a Pridelander princess. Azdgari claimed that Kiara/girl fits their story better than Kopa/boy, but I don't see how?
Azdgari wrote:But... how can something distributed by Disney be fan made? If it's released as Disney merchandise, it's not fan made. Therefor, it's extended universe. Third time I've said this, and I'm still not sure how you're arguing against it. From debater to debater, a short poignant paragraph is much more effective than a wall of text 'brute force' argument... can you possibly simplify what you're saying a little? Or maybe I'm just dumb and like to read shorter posts... xD
A book getting a Disney stamp on it doesn't change the book's creation process. As in if a book was created and written by a fan, it remains fan-made no matter what happens to it after it was finished. Disney's stamp appearing on it changed only its status in officiality, not who made it.
TheDoctor wrote:Kopa is "semi-canon". Along with Ahadi, Uru, Mheetu, Bhati, Ni, Kula, Chumvi, Tama, Zollo, King Joe, Rafiki's fat cousin/relative, Pumbaa's possible girlfriend, Mufasa's monkey assistant (whose names escape me) and all the other named or unnamed characters who have appeared in Disney concept art, books or comics. They did not appear in the films and only the films are canon but Disney still technically owns these characters, thus semi-canon.
To me 'semi' refers to that something is in another media format or story seeing to the main source, and 'canon' that something is created into the canon or approved and tied into it by the canon's creators. Thus, to me, what is not approved and tied into the canon by the canon's actual
creators (in this case the film's makers), is not actually part of the canon, and thus can not carry the term 'canon' in its definition.
TheDoctor wrote:I'm with the general fandom's opinion that a son of Simba existed and that he disappeared because of Zira and that this is the reason for Simba's behaviour in SP. It really makes so much sense. Much more sense than "I will banish you just because you like Scar!" xP
The last mentioned reason makes all the sense in the world to me:
- Simba's exiled at approximately the age of 10, by Scar, at the moment he was still crying a river over his father's body.
- He goes through horrid emotional, psychological and physical torture lost in the desert for couple of days. He nearly dies after all that suffering.
- He is rescued by couple of scoundrels. He never truly grows up during his years in the exile because his friends are immature and he has no one is there to actually raise him and guide him into adulthood and parenthood or even into kingship.
- All that time he tries to surpress all the pain and woe and insecureness by his motto 'Hakuna Matata' but fails. While all that time he believes Scar is his friend and that he is taking good care of Pridelands.
(Hence, in the exile situation Scar gave the impression he is his friend, and Simba was surprised/shocked to hear that Scar had given the Pridelands to hyena and destroyed it.)- Then, all the sudden he is yanked away from all that he felt was safe for the person he had become.
("How can I go back? I'm not who I used to be!" "I know what I must do, but it's so hard to face the past. I ran from it for so long.")- He learns that Scar had murdered Mufasa and blamed it on him (Simba), that Scar was intnetionally the cause of all the extreme and utter pain and suffering Simba had gone through for all those years which Scar himself had been destroying his home, striking his mother and letting his family starve to death.
- Add to that utter hurt, pain and bitterness, how Simba indeed hadn't grown up inside, and he had been all the sudden yanked into huge responsibilities of an adult and a king and then there turns out to be new lions who are Scar's heir or downright support Scar, this horrid betrayer and murderer who showed him a wolf can lurk in every guise. Of course he's gonna exile them. He's a freakin emotional and psychological mess, and an immature and insecure adult and king, who just tries to protect his family.
- All this resulrs into his over-protectiveness of Kiara as well. Especially as Kiara is also bound to get in trouble because she's just like he used to be as a cub.
To me the first film's base alone makes all the sense in the world to Simba's behaviour and choices in SP and seeing to the amount and depth of those events and experiences, there is absolutely no need for any more drama in order for the behaviour to be what it is.
