Massive School Shooting at an Elementary School

[DGFone]

[quote="TheBlackCatCrossing"]I am going to polarize people by saying this and I do believe with all my being that this is not so much as a gun issue but a mental health issue. Even if you make strict rules and legislate, people will somehow get guns. Look at Prohibition and alcohol.[/quote]

I completely agree with you. So people are now saying that the mother was shot at her home and not at school, alright, but the guy was still clearly nuts. It's what I said before:

It's not the quality of the gun that kills people, but the quality (or in this case, a lack of) of the person holding the gun.

[TheBlackCatCrossing]

^The thing is, mentall illness is such a sensitive subject. If something is wrong with someone, we are the bad guys for seeing/knowing that person as being 'wrong'. In this case, as well as Aurora, Littleton, Virginia Tech, some people cannot be cured. Honestly, I am kind of fed up with the whole 'pray for the families' bit. I can have sympathy and I also believe that getting rid of guns won't solve all the problems. As I said, I wouldn't own a gun personally but I won't tread on someone else's garden if they choose to. I would still feel uncomfortable. Then again, DGFone, I remember when the LA Riots happened so........

[Azdgari]

It is not impossible to have sensible gun control and regulation while maintaining the rights of a certified, trained citizen to possess a weapon. However, groups like the NRA have such a chokehold on our politicians that we can't even have a civil conversation and come to a sensible conclusion. So as far as placing blame, I might honestly look not at the gun, or at the person. I look at the organizations and people that suppress conversations and actions that might save lives simply to pursue their deluded interests.

Maybe America will be ready to have a conversation this time. Best wishes to the families and victims.

[Woeler]

[quote="Azdgari"]You know, they talked about implementing Biometric trigger locks in guns a while back for safety. These locks would make it impossible for people who didn't own guns to fire them--each gun would be specifically coded to its user's fingerprints. This technology would have made this shooting impossible. The NRA lobbied the idea to death because it represented an infringement upon liberty. Excessive regulation they called it.[/quote]

Someone has been watching a little too much James Bond

[Azdgari]

Not at all, although Skyfall was incredibly good. I read an article that turned out to be factually inaccurate. Bummerrrr. However, on a more general note, user specific gun locks have been in development for a long time, although still have some problems. Some Smith and Wesson have a pretty cool gun lock ring, which makes it impossible to fire the weapon without wearing the ring. However, my point remains. There is a compromise to be made, but organizations like the NRA make it impossible to have conversations and make these compromises.

[Woeler]

[quote="Azdgari"]Not at all, although Skyfall was incredibly good. Biometrics, or more generally, user specific gun locks have been in development for a long time, although still have some problems. However, their use was heavily lobbied against by the NRA. If commissioned by our government, I doubt that it would take very long to come up with a viable solution.[/quote]
Seriously, they should disband the NRA. Nobody profits from them. It's not accident it was founded in the same year the KKK was disbanded.

I mean how many people are NRA members in the USA? 2%? If they're getting in the way of achieving a peaceful society they should be disbanded.

[Regulus]

Or maybe we should just outlaw bullets, and replace them with bits of rubber.

[TheBlackCatCrossing]

I wish I was joking

http://www.examiner.com/article/connect ... -to-picket

[Woeler]

[quote="TheBlackCatCrossing"]I wish I was joking

http://www.examiner.com/article/connect ... -to-picket[/quote]
Seriously why don't those shooters go to the Westboro building. Their mental delusions aren't helping anyone. That organization fully profits from the right to be retarded.

[Kopalover]

I believe a way to stop these types of shootings, and to increase gun control is to not allow any household with a mentally ill/unstable person living within is not aloud to own a gun, or any sort of related lethal weapon. No guns, bullets, or such other amour-y aloud in the home. If you work with guns, keep them at work. If you are a hunter, keep them in safe storage at the shooting range with a picture of yourself and your name.
I believe it would decrease crime rate, and significantly stop mass shootings.

Remember the Batman shooting? They say he was mentally unstable. This shooting? Mentally unstable. A way to stop this, is provided above.

It seems logical enough to not own a gun with a mentally unstable person. But why not keep a law about it?