Election Day 2012

[Woeler]

[quote="DGFone"]Note my sources, and look at yours. Your first source is from a religious group, and the second one is from antiwar.com.

I have to doubt your sources, Woeler. They don't look very reliable. The second one is particularly concerning about bias.

And let me edit the question I asked about Israel and Iran:

Your neighbor told you that you have no right to exist. It might or might not be developing a nuke. What do you do.

And for this, Woeler, I DO want an answer. I want to see what you will do if you were Israel.[/quote]
You doubt my sources because you don't like them. Weak, weak, weak. Second, i do not take orders from someone who tells me I only read tabloid headlines and then believes Iran has nukes eventhough research from his OWN country says he's wrong.

You've cornered yourself. Stop spewing demands and escapes at me. You have not a single thing but opinions and speculations or downslopes. I have research.

You can not win this and you are not willing to face it. NO researched showed that Iran has nukes, they showed they don't have them and aren't making them. You have nothing.

Sources would be relevant if Iran was using weaponsgrade uranium, which they are not. They even say they are only using it for energy purposes. "but it might someday possibly be able to produce some sort of nuke". Likely? No

[TheRoguePrince]

You guys have it all wrong. The US doesn't want to stop Iran from having a nuclear weapon because Iran might use it. It's because a terrorist group might get a hold of it. If Iran makes a weapon, other countries will follow suit (can't play favorites with Iran, now can we?) and then the world's most unable regional in the world will be atomic.

Those terrorist groups want American blood on their breakfast cereal and chant "Death to USA" all the live long day.

[Woeler]

[quote="TheRoguePrince"]You guys have it all wrong. The US doesn't want to stop Iran from having a nuclear weapon because Iran might use it. It's because a terrorist group might get a hold of it. If Iran makes a weapon, other countries will follow suit (can't play favorites with Iran, now can we?) and then the world's most unable regional in the world will be atomic.

Those terrorist groups want American blood on their breakfast cereal and chant "Death to USA" all the live long day.[/quote]
Your downslope is even worse than DGf's one. Back it up. They do not have nukes and are not making them, thus no reason to even think of war. Reason, not speculate.

[DGFone]

It is reason, not speculating, Woeler. I think your mentality is one of the popular "Nuclear was is so bad, it can never happen". You are so afraid of Nuclear war that you refuse to admit that it might happen.

It is well known and proven that Iran is not cooperating with watchdogs over its nuclear program. If it has nothing to hide, why is it hiding more and more?

How come IAEA found some documents in Iran that tell on how to make spherical Uranium. Spherical uranium is used in these applications:
1. Bombs
2. Nothing else

And you're right, no research has found nukes in Iran yet. BECAUSE IT DOEN'T HAVE THEM YET. As for is it making them, or trying to make them? Loads of proof for both arguments. So don't tell me that I'm wrong in saying that Iran has nukes, because I never said that. So to quote you, Weak, weak, weak.

[Azdgari]

Wow, DGF, you're pretty extremist. I guess I shouldn't generalize that good or bad, but you're nowhere near as independent thinking as I thought. You're as extreme right wing as anyone I've met, barring gay marriage (and abortion?)

Also, are you smarter than all of the PhD's who've dedicated their lives to the studies and so conclusively proven climate as to create a widespread government agency to regulate the effects humans have on the environment. Food for thought.

[TheRoguePrince]

Nukes? Iran doesn't have them. They are making them.

As for proof, well...

[quote="Source"]Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency and Iran have intensified this year after an IAEA report in November 2011 said it had "credible information that Iran had carried out activities relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device," he said.[/quote]

The White House seems to think they are too. Also, they won't sign a ban against them, which is pretty suspicious for a country that isn't making them

[DGFone]

[quote="Azdgari"]Wow, DGF, you're pretty extremist. I guess I shouldn't generalize that good or bad, but you're nowhere near as independent thinking as I thought. You're as extreme right wing as anyone I've met, barring gay marriage (and abortion?)

Also, are you smarter than all of the PhD's who've dedicated their lives to the studies and so conclusively proven climate as to create a widespread government agency to regulate the effects humans have on the environment. Food for thought.[/quote]

Since when did saying that I believe that Iran wants to build a nuke make me a right-wing extremist. I mean... WHAT???? How? I don't see the connection.

And no, I am not smarter than the PhDs who study climate change. But I know that it's those PhDs that know how little we actually know, and they are the ones that disproved ALL of the global warming pseudoscience. I am not going against them, but with them.

[Azdgari]

[quote="DGFone"][quote="Azdgari"]Wow, DGF, you're pretty extremist. I guess I shouldn't generalize that good or bad, but you're nowhere near as independent thinking as I thought. You're as extreme right wing as anyone I've met, barring gay marriage (and abortion?)

Also, are you smarter than all of the PhD's who've dedicated their lives to the studies and so conclusively proven climate as to create a widespread government agency to regulate the effects humans have on the environment. Food for thought.[/quote]

Since when did saying that I believe that Iran wants to build a nuke make me a right-wing extremist. I mean... WHAT???? How? I don't see the connection.[/quote]
-almost utter state independence
-tiny govt.
-minimize social services
-global warming is a myth
-call for aggressive action against iran
-call for utter and complete deregulation of everything


You are right wing extremist. ;3

[Regulus]

[quote="DGFone"]And no, I am not smarter than the PhDs who study climate change. But I know that it's those PhDs that know how little we actually know, and they are the ones that disproved ALL of the global warming pseudoscience. I am not going against them, but with them.[/quote]

http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/basics/

http://climate.nasa.gov/keyIndicators/

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cmb-faq/globalwarming.html

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/scie ... index.html

Yes, all the smart people in the world have clearly proven that global warming is nothing more than a folk tale.

[Woeler]

[quote="DGFone"]It is reason, not speculating, Woeler. I think your mentality is one of the popular "Nuclear was is so bad, it can never happen". You are so afraid of Nuclear war that you refuse to admit that it might happen.

It is well known and proven that Iran is not cooperating with watchdogs over its nuclear program. If it has nothing to hide, why is it hiding more and more?

How come IAEA found some documents in Iran that tell on how to make spherical Uranium. Spherical uranium is used in these applications:
1. Bombs
2. Nothing else

And you're right, no research has found nukes in Iran yet. BECAUSE IT DOEN'T HAVE THEM YET. As for is it making them, or trying to make them? Loads of proof for both arguments. So don't tell me that I'm wrong in saying that Iran has nukes, because I never said that. So to quote you, Weak, weak, weak.[/quote]

Will you stop thinking for me? And stop trying to analyze me? I have given my points, given my sources. You have nothing but speculations. I'm not gonna listen to you peep about this anymore. You're worse than creationists. I am not afraid of a nuclear war because there will be no nuclear war because iran has no nukes and is not getting news.

You're destroying your own image and status here with the weird, twisted and speculated arguments. Just let it go with some dignity.

Iran has no nukes and is not making nukes, and that is what we know. Period.

TRP, I'm sorry but that is really too much of a "might" statement