Healthcare Mandate PASSED

Re: Healthcare Mandate PASSED

Postby Tabby » June 29th, 2012, 5:18 am

It's funny... my government claims to be so much socialistic and stuff... But, some time ago this guy died in front of a clinic cause his insurancce's password didn't work, in others you've got to pay some money before you get attended, so if you don't have money you die, as easy as that. So I don't get it, LOL, why hasn't this been done in my country aswell x)

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Re: Healthcare Mandate PASSED

Postby Azdgari » June 29th, 2012, 5:31 am

Is anybody here opposed to Obamacare? I'm not going to vilify you and say "GOD HOW COULD YOU IMAGINE THAT EVERYONE SHOULDN'T HAVE HEALTHCARE" but are people concerned about its effect on the healthcare sector, or the possible tax increases?
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Re: Healthcare Mandate PASSED

Postby Regulus » June 29th, 2012, 5:52 am

Azdgari wrote:Is anybody here opposed to Obamacare? I'm not going to vilify you and say "GOD HOW COULD YOU IMAGINE THAT EVERYONE SHOULDN'T HAVE HEALTHCARE" but are people concerned about its effect on the healthcare sector, or the possible tax increases?


If you can't afford to pay the tax, then you will be benefiting from it the most. Think of the hobos!

I'm not sure how it works for those who already have healthcare, but I can't imagine it would make much of a difference.
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Re: Healthcare Mandate PASSED

Postby Tora » June 29th, 2012, 5:58 am

Those that have it are the ones that don't like it, because now they pay taxes so those that don't have it can have health care. ;) It is just ridiculous that the we complain about taxes when we have pretty low ones compared to other countries.
I personally agree with ObamaCare.
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Re: Healthcare Mandate PASSED

Postby Azdgari » June 29th, 2012, 6:10 am

I think that people are most concerned about the taxes because

a) in an awful economy people don't want taxes being raised, people are afraid that, especially in lower middle class families, it will hurt their quality of life.
b) requiring all businesses over 50 employees to offer insurance could lead to major layoffs to cope with the cost, new taxes raised by the ACA will discourage growth
c) health care costs will probably rise
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Re: Healthcare Mandate PASSED

Postby Arani » June 29th, 2012, 7:24 am

I'm worried about taxes/prices going up. Thing is, my family still cant even afford to take me to the doctor to have my knee looked at (Which I dislocated about a week ago and it looks like it may be slightly fractured or something weird.) My brother was in a biking accident a few weeks ago. He wasn't seriously hurt but he still had to go into the emergency room to get a cut bandaged up. It really wasn't as serious as people thought it was. HUGE bill came out of that. I don't really know much about this stuff but I do know that if the prices go up any more, lets just say getting dinner on the table and getting me to a doctors office (Which should have happened last week) is gonna get a lot harder than it already is. Not to mention future doctor visits and bills to pay and such.

LOL I'm not expert on this stuff and I may have misunderstood some of this stuff so if I got something wrong please correct me.
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Re: Healthcare Mandate PASSED

Postby Regulus » June 29th, 2012, 7:50 am

Arani wrote:I'm worried about taxes/prices going up. Thing is, my family still cant even afford to take me to the doctor to have my knee looked at (Which I dislocated about a week ago and it looks like it may be slightly fractured or something weird.) My brother was in a biking accident a few weeks ago. He wasn't seriously hurt but he still had to go into the emergency room to get a cut bandaged up. It really wasn't as serious as people thought it was. HUGE bill came out of that. I don't really know much about this stuff but I do know that if the prices go up any more, lets just say getting dinner on the table and getting me to a doctors office (Which should have happened last week) is gonna get a lot harder than it already is. Not to mention future doctor visits and bills to pay and such.

LOL I'm not expert on this stuff and I may have misunderstood some of this stuff so if I got something wrong please correct me.


If I understand this correctly, taxes will go up, yes, but all medical expenses will be nonexistent, just like public education is free.
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Re: Healthcare Mandate PASSED

Postby Tora » June 29th, 2012, 7:52 am

Regulus wrote:
Arani wrote:I'm worried about taxes/prices going up. Thing is, my family still cant even afford to take me to the doctor to have my knee looked at (Which I dislocated about a week ago and it looks like it may be slightly fractured or something weird.) My brother was in a biking accident a few weeks ago. He wasn't seriously hurt but he still had to go into the emergency room to get a cut bandaged up. It really wasn't as serious as people thought it was. HUGE bill came out of that. I don't really know much about this stuff but I do know that if the prices go up any more, lets just say getting dinner on the table and getting me to a doctors office (Which should have happened last week) is gonna get a lot harder than it already is. Not to mention future doctor visits and bills to pay and such.

LOL I'm not expert on this stuff and I may have misunderstood some of this stuff so if I got something wrong please correct me.


If I understand this correctly, taxes will go up, yes, but all medical expenses will be nonexistent, just like public education is free.


The only problem I see is that the ones that have minor illness will either not be seen or they will have to pay for it themselves.
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Re: Healthcare Mandate PASSED

Postby Regulus » June 29th, 2012, 8:03 am

Possibly, but if it really is minor I don't see what the issue is. :/
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Re: Healthcare Mandate PASSED

Postby FlipMode » June 29th, 2012, 1:00 pm

So it's the equivilant of England's nhs service? If so, I can't believe you guys didn't already have this...
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