How many cubs does Simba have?

[Jiirani]

[quote="atouchofgrace"][quote="Jiirani"]Is it not just that he only has the one cub?
In the movie [SP] it's Kiara
In the books [6NA] it's Kopa
and at the end of the first movie [TLK] it's Fluffy.

They just had one cub altogether though, just three different versions through different pairs of eyes. Does that make sense?[/quote]

^^ THIS.
You know, you have the original story.
Different people will continue it in different ways. Simple as that.[/quote]

I'm glad, I was worried I sounds like a loony lol

[VitaniCubbeh]

[quote="Jiirani"][quote="atouchofgrace"][quote="Jiirani"]Is it not just that he only has the one cub?
In the movie [SP] it's Kiara
In the books [6NA] it's Kopa
and at the end of the first movie [TLK] it's Fluffy.

They just had one cub altogether though, just three different versions through different pairs of eyes. Does that make sense?[/quote]

^^ THIS.
You know, you have the original story.
Different people will continue it in different ways. Simple as that.[/quote]

I'm glad, I was worried I sounds like a loony lol[/quote]


THIS is the TRUTH! TLK is only the first episode, it has some kind of two sequels, SP is the official one. Both of those sequels are right. Sorry bad english.

[atouchofgrace]

[quote="Jiirani"]I'm glad, I was worried I sounds like a loony lol[/quote]
Not loony at all. It makes perfect sense. It's easy to understand.
Don't make simple things complicated, please.

[Jiirani]

Oh good
Sorry D:

[SuperBabySimba]

[quote="Jiirani"]Actually, when you think about it logically, they did say they didn't think TLK would be as popular as it is, they didn't even think anyone would like it. So they didn't think anyone would look into it this much, as to the timeline and how realistic everything is. Simba's Pride was definatly not as realistic as TLK was, and even then TLK wasn't very realistic in it's own little ways. I don't think the film makers would expect us to argue over suck meager things [/quote]

The point is the film makers themselves - both TLK's and SP's - bothered to go to Africa in order to study the animals. TLK's makers even brough them all the way into the studio. As in, why would they do all that expensive and time-taking stuff if they weren't going to put all that they studied, into the films? And why would they widely and loudly tell us that they went to Africa, studied the animals and brought them into the studio, if they didn't expect us to treat the film's content according to realistic life?

[quote="Jiirani"]What? O3O. I'm confused lol, your saying that Kopa is older than Kovu so they shouldn't have the same size of hair tufts? Is that what your saying? Sorry, I'm confused xDD;[/quote]

No, of course Kovu is older because he was born before Simba and Nala even met, much less mated and carried the child. I was saying that the time between Kovu and Fluffy's births is unavoidably a year or more because of how much time a savannah needs to recover from total, utter destruction which was even increased by the fire at the end of TLK. And that year is just too much age difference for them to have exactly the same amount of mane, even with individual growth rates.

And that even if we pretended it wouldn't take that long for nature to recover from such destruction, but that four months would be enough and that it wouldn't be too much for the age looks with individual rates... (it would have to be four months in minimum between Kovu and Fluffy's births as Nala needs to carry the child, give birth and it to be presented to the kingdom). it wouldn't make sense for Kopa to be the cub. Because Kiara is there and at least 7 months old judging by the tail tuft. Kopa and Kiara would need to be litter mates to exist in the same story while Kovu is in it. But they can't be litter mates because the books don't have a sister to Kopa and the film doesn't have a brother to Kiara.

[supersimba]

omfg I swear SuperBabySimba your posts should be committed to paper and flushed down the friggen toilet, what is this? :

[quote="SuperBabySimba"]blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah x 100 [/quote]

Learn to be concise >.> or just learn to not spout utter sewage on this forum.

Kopa is canon depending on what you class as canon, thats that.

In SP2 Simba had one cub, Kiara. That is that.

[VitaniCubbeh]

Wow, I was just saying that SuperBabySimba can really explain things clearly >.< It's great that somebody has enough time to explain CLEARLY !

[SnowyCheetah]

He does it in such a long-winded way that it's confusing or too long for most members.

[Jiirani]

[quote="supersimba"]omfg I swear SuperBabySimba your posts should be committed to paper and flushed down the friggen toilet, what is this? :

[quote="SuperBabySimba"]blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah x 100 [/quote]

Learn to be concise >.> or just learn to not spout utter sewage on this forum.

Kopa is canon depending on what you class as canon, thats that.

In SP2 Simba had one cub, Kiara. That is that.[/quote]

You rule supersimba 8D

I'm just sayin' :3

[SuperBabySimba]

supersimba:

1.) I'm as concise as I can be with throughly reasoned points.
2.) Kopa is book universes canon wherein there is no other cubs mentioned in the stories he is in. Officially Kopa isn't the cub at the end of the first film and Kiara's film doesn't mention or leave room for him either. Thus, to believe Kiara and Kopa are part of the same canon, doesn't make sense.

Is that concise enough for you?

I'm being less concise usually, simply to reason my claims throughly and in order to provoke constructive discussion. For heaven's sake, if you take it as blah-blah-blah then it is you who has a problem, not me.

[quote="maikkari"]Wow, I was just saying that SuperBabySimba can really explain things clearly >.< It's great that somebody has enough time to explain CLEARLY ![/quote]

Thank you. I can understand that sometimes I may not be as concise and clear as possible, but at least I try to reason my points throughly and provoke constructive discussion. So, if someone is confused, then they should ask instead of dismiss my posts as complete trash. And as for my posts being confusion or too long for "most members", how can anyone know that? I doubt most members have stated their opinion on that. One can only speak for onself.