what are your expectations (to make you happy) with this rem

what are your expectations (to make you happy) with this rem

Postby Elton John » December 24th, 2018, 11:49 pm

ake.

Honestly all I really want is more screentime and characterization for Sarabi and Nala. Give em’ both a song too.

That would make me happy.
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Re: what are your expectations (to make you happy) with this

Postby TheLionPrince » December 25th, 2018, 11:40 pm

1. More screentime for Sarabi and Nala. I do think they will explore more of Scar's reign over the Pride Lands.

2. There will probably be more new characters in minor supporting roles like the elephant shrew character being voiced by Amy Sedaris.

3. Scar will probably be a more sympathetic villain.

4. As hinted by John Kani in a radio interview, Rafiki will probably be depicted as a more serious shaman character.
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Re: what are your expectations (to make you happy) with this

Postby Panpardus » December 30th, 2018, 6:56 pm

Overall, a story that more generally follows the Broadway version as a template, with some ideas from older drafts of the original The Lion King thrown in. Specifically I'm hoping for:

  • The lionesses in general need more shine, so I'm thinking a group hunt scene (both the original draft and the Broadway show have one early in the story, which is how we're introduced to Nala in the latter) and a "Shadowland"-esque moment. The latter I'm sure we'll get since they got Beyoncé to voice Nala, but Sarabi and the rest of the lionesses need to at least feel like an active part of the story dynamics, especially since they make up the bulk of the pride in the first place.
  • More time spent on Scar's reign, as aforementioned.
  • The hyenas should feel less like an undercaste of minions and more like an actual independent rival faction to the lions. It would make Scar's alliance with them more even-footed and increase their threat level in my opinion.
  • Personal hope: Timon is a banded mongoose rather than a meerkat.
  • The film ends with Simba and Nala having at least two cubs, ideally three just to placate Kopa, Kiara, and Kion fans. (And it makes more sense to have multiple cubs.)
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Re: what are your expectations (to make you happy) with this

Postby DGFone » December 31st, 2018, 5:21 pm

In the original movie, the decision not to show Nala leaving the Pride Lands was a very deliberate one: her showing up and nearly eating Pumbaa was supposed to be a surprise, so showing her leave would have spoiled it.

However with the remake, since the plot is already known, I am still debating whether or not it would be a good thing to show her leaving or not.
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Re: what are your expectations (to make you happy) with this

Postby Panpardus » January 5th, 2019, 5:32 pm

I'm assuming it won't be that much of a surprise this time around. Most people going into this definitely already know the story anyway; that's why the remake is happening in the first place and it's one of the most watched trailers in history. More substantively, unless they write some wholly original material, I can't see how they'd beef up adult Nala's role/screentime in a meaningful way (which they'll probably do since it's Beyoncé) without addressing this plot point. I think there's more to gain than lose from including it.
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Re: what are your expectations (to make you happy) with this

Postby SimbasGuard » January 15th, 2019, 3:10 am

I just need them to expand on the original, as a shot by shot Remake is pointless.

Like most everyone has said.

More Screen time for Nala, Sarabi, Sarafina. (Mention Sarafina's name on Screen).

Showing Scar make his romantic advances on Nala might run the risk of flirting with a PG-13 Rating, but it would also rule him out as her Father.

Please talk about Nala's Father and Name him (or at least say why he is not there), After 25 years I want to put a stake through the heart of the idea that Simba and Nala are related.

Both Kiara and Kion born at the end

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Re: what are your expectations (to make you happy) with this

Postby Iberian » January 17th, 2019, 7:44 pm

I´m hoping to hear some new songs, such as the madness of king scar (which goes in hand with what was said about giving more screen time to Nala). I kinda also wanted to hear some of the songs from rythm of the pridelands, (Lala and Kube come to mind... :P ).
I know this ins´t the right thread to complain about the movie, but I have only one problem with John Fravreau´s design: His color palette. Lion King is a movie with such a broad color palette, I really hope they don´t mess it up and make it all look bland and vague...
I know some of these images are over-saturated, this serves only to show the broad range of color schemes in the original movie.
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Re: what are your expectations (to make you happy) with this

Postby Aelwen » January 18th, 2019, 11:13 am

SimbasGuard wrote:I just need them to expand on the original as a shot by shot Remake is pointless.



Please talk about Nala's Father and Name him (or at least say why he is not there), After 25 years I want to put a stake through the heart of the idea that Simba and Nala are related.

Both Kiara and Kion born at the end

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I sdoubt movie makers care about Kiara or Kion. They will show us a little namesless cub in the end as usual.
(And besides, isn't a point of ceremony to show an heir apparent and not all heirs?).

Maybe we'll know smth about Nala's father...
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Re: what are your expectations (to make you happy) with this

Postby SimbasGuard » January 19th, 2019, 7:58 am

Aelwen wrote:I sdoubt movie makers care about Kiara or Kion. They will show us a little namesless cub in the end as usual.
(And besides, isn't a point of ceremony to show an heir apparent and not all heirs?).


Only one cub will be presented at the ceremony. As yes the point of the ceremony is to show the Heir to The Throne not all of The Royal Cubs. However it would be easy enough for them to show that Nala had two cubs while only one is presented.

You are also right that they most likely will not mention the name and/or gender(s) of the cub(s) at the end. I know full well that once I see that cub I will assume that it is Kiara. If there is more that one cub at the end I will assume that that cub is Kion. It is very possible that Disney could take an entirely different route if they deiced to follow up The Remake in any way.
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Re: what are your expectations (to make you happy) with this

Postby Aelwen » January 19th, 2019, 11:43 pm

It is very possible that Disney could an entirely different route if they deiced to follow up The Remake in any way.


I doubt they will make a sequel to it. And for now Kiara is more "canonical" than Kion. Disney could have removed her at all for TLG but they kept her and Kovu and Zira so they accept the sequel canon.

I will be terribly surprised if in the end of the movie they will announce smth like "After some time the Pridelands became full of life again, and it was now time to welcome a new cub in the Circle of Life - Simba's and Nala's son Chaka".

Kion is actually fitsthe origianl idea for Sp It was supposed to be two cubs - him and Kiara (Shani).
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