Hollywood's Top 10 Animated Movies

Re: Hollywood's Top 10 Animated Movies

Postby Kal » June 5th, 2013, 2:35 pm

I give up with these lists kinda anyway. While recognition is nice for something you love, these things are very subjective. Opinions iz opinions...

That's not to say that anyone who dislikes TLK isn't an idiot though. :P
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Re: Hollywood's Top 10 Animated Movies

Postby Ninaroja » June 5th, 2013, 6:05 pm

[quote="Kal"]
That's not to say that anyone who dislikes TLK isn't an idiot though. :P[/quote]

A friend once told me TLK was the worst movie she'd ever seen.

We don't talk anymore.
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Re: Hollywood's Top 10 Animated Movies

Postby InsaneSeagull » June 5th, 2013, 6:07 pm

^ Destroy her, kill her, murder her... how dares she... how... XDD

No, really. I can't complain Shrek won. It is very good, not as good as TLK, but come on, guys, those critics who make these lists are also PEOPLE, who are subjective. Just as we are. Calm down a bit ^^
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Re: Hollywood's Top 10 Animated Movies

Postby MooLion » June 7th, 2013, 2:48 pm

Such polls always annoy me! Shrek I've never thought of as more than 'all right' . I can't quite get my head around why it's liked as much as it is. (To be fair, Shrek 2 was pretty funny.) What TLK has brought us is so much more on many levels. :(
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Re: Hollywood's Top 10 Animated Movies

Postby DGFone » June 8th, 2013, 12:02 am

Shrek, like all such parody movies, take famous scenes from other movies and media and clump them together. So a perfect parody movie in the style of Shrek will have only good scenes, and no bad scenes, and will be 0% original.

The Lion King, while based off Hamlet, is still quite an original story. It's an adaptation, but it does't steal, copy, or homage individual scenes from other movies. Because The Lion King, in terms of screenplay, is original, there are going to be parts that people like and don't like.

Shrek just steals popular scenes from already popular movies of all types, so it's guaranteed to get Plus Points from everyone.

Not from me though. That Fiona Matrix bullet-time parody scene makes me cringe every time, instead of laugh.
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Re: Hollywood's Top 10 Animated Movies

Postby TheLionPrince » June 8th, 2013, 1:23 am

[quote="DGFone"]
The Lion King, while based off Hamlet, is still quite an original story. It's an adaptation, but it does't steal, copy, or homage individual scenes from other movies. Because The Lion King, in terms of screenplay, is original, there are going to be parts that people like and don't like.[/quote]

What about the little "homage" to Reversal of Fortune?

Simba: "You're so weird!"
Scar: "You have no idea."

Alan Dershowitz: "You are a very strange man."
Claus von Bülow : "You have no idea."

There was also a reference to Gone with the Wind when Scar says Scarlet O'Hara's famous line, "[You'll] never go hungry again," and the camera zooms out identically just like in Gone with the Wind.

I'm not sure about this "reference", but remember when Timon and Zazu were exchanging simultaneously "Let me out! Let me out!" and "Let me in! Let me in", this seems to reference the 1985 comedy film, Clue:



Not to mention the most obvious reference of them all, "They call Mister Pig!", a reference to In the Heat of the Night's "They call Mister Tibbs!"
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Re: Hollywood's Top 10 Animated Movies

Postby DGFone » June 8th, 2013, 6:41 am

[quote="TheLionPrince"]What about the little "homage" to Reversal of Fortune?

Simba: "You're so weird!"
Scar: "You have no idea."[/quote]

While Scar did use the exact same tone for the homage, you don't need to know that in order to comprehend the scene in it's entirely. It's just an added bonus. To go back to the Shrek example, if you never saw the Matrix, the scene where Fiona jumps in order to kick and time stops as the camera pans around her (straight from the Matrix), you won't really get what that's doing there. Heck, I've seen the Matrix and that scene still feels out of place.

[quote="TheLionPrince"]"[You'll] never go hungry again,"[/quote]

Hitler, actually. Which fits the greater "Nazism" theme of "Be Prepared". The entire song is about how the hyenas blindly followed Scar (lol, was just about to write Hitler) with the promise of a better life - taken straight out of 1930s Germany and the rise of fascism.

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And for the other homages as well: The Lion King uses them as an added bonus, but the scenes work just fine on their own. You don't need to get the reference for the scene to work, versus a movie like Shrek where you better know where X scene comes from otherwise you won't get it.
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