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Postby KingKivuli » October 13th, 2013, 4:17 pm

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Re: Timon

Postby Zonofon » October 15th, 2013, 8:01 pm

Because of Timon I found this forum. He really is my favorite character. I've known him since childhood, when I did not know about the existence of the TLK film. And for me he was just a funny character.
But when I saw the TLK 3 I saw him on the other side.
And today I am convinced that Timon is a great character. He can be very different - kind, devoted, but he can be sarcastic and lazy. Timon attracts me with his sincerity. He has never disappointed me.
On the one hand it is good that in TLK 1, he is very funny. But on the other hand because of it it is difficult for many to see his great qualities in TLK 3.
In general it is very good that there is such a character that can not leave anyone indifferent (both positively and negatively).
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Re: Timon

Postby Regulus » October 16th, 2013, 4:42 pm

I don't really like Timon. Sorry to all the meerkat fans around here, but I think it's about time that I explain why.

For starters, his voice is rather annoying. He's like Zazu, but without that awesome British accent.

But that's not what really bothers me. The main reason why I don't like him is because of the way he treats Pumbaa. His entire existence, in the first film, is nothing but comic relief. Instead of actually being funny, however, he's just mean.

He takes credit for Pumbaa's good ideas, but otherwise manipulates the warthog into doing whatever he wants. He takes advantage of Pumbaa's stupidity, his lack of family, and his kind, relaxed personality, with the obvious intention of only working to benefit himself.

I've known people like that. I've been in Pumbaa's situation one too many times, and let me tell you: it isn't pleasant.

Timon doesn't look after anyone but himself, and he's not afraid to admit it. He doesn't really care about anyone or anything; that was what allowed him to adopt the philosophy of Hakuna Matata to begin with.

He didn't rescue Simba. He kept Simba away from his home, and prevented the cub from fulfilling his place in life. Timon used Simba for his own protection, and that was it.

In TLK 3 I can almost feel bad for Timon, but I don't. There was a reason why he was kicked out--because he couldn't do his job. He couldn't do any job, and his excuse was that he thought he deserved better. I'm sure his family grew tired of that really quickly.

He didn't even get exiled, so it wasn't like that. He left his family because of the severity of his acute cranial rectitis. He was too absorbed in himself to do any job or contribute to his colony in any way, but he couldn't see it. He was incapable of fathoming the idea that he was wrong to think the way he did.

Oh, but I know what you're going to say. He changed! That's part of character development, and I'm glad the writers allowed a main character to initially exemplify such poor qualities, and change later on. But that doesn't mean I can still like him.

Mostly, that's because part of me wonders why he changed. I have little doubt that he decided to help Simba, simply because he realized what was in it for him. He found that if he helped Simba, he could live in the Pridelands with the protection of multiple lions. I just have to wonder about that, looking back through all those scenes. I know he was far too thick to change his mind for the right reasons.

So there you have it. That's why I don't like Timon. That's why Timon is my least favorite character. In my opinion, he has fewer redeeming qualities than even Scar or Zira, who are supposed to be the real bad guys.
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Re: Timon

Postby Carl » October 16th, 2013, 4:49 pm

^ I've always preferred Pumbaa of the duo and did feel bad for him on account of Timon treating him that way, but other than that, I never thought of Timon as anything more than comic relief. I do see your point, I just never thought of it that way. I don't hate him, and he does make me laugh, but beyond that, I never put that much thought into him at all, so.
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Re: Timon

Postby Timon the great » October 17th, 2013, 7:15 pm

"I found a place that was beyond my wildest dreams. But..., it still wasn't home." - Timon; Lion King 1 1/2 (3)

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Re: Timon

Postby Zonofon » October 18th, 2013, 6:39 pm

I respect the opinions of others. But now I felt sorry for Timon.
I totally agree with Timon the great that we should look at all from different sides.
I always thought that the TLK 3 is good because it allows to see Timon different. Firstly it is the warmth and sincerity of his feelings to his family and friends. And they respond to him with the same sincerity. I believe that Ma did not want to Timon left the colony. The most important proof-Ma decided to find Timon and she found him at the end of the movie. Timon left voluntarily. Community has not kicked him out of colony.
Is it possible to call an egoist who risks his life for a friend? Timon could be eaten by hyenas. He could have died when he was in a tunnel to lure the hyenas into a trap. And Ma was worried about him. But Timon could not do it all, and tell to Simba that he will help him mentally and stand on the sidelines.
When all is well ended Timon could forget his family and live with Pumbaa under the protection of Simba. They will get more, do not share it with anyone. But he invited the entire colony, family. Is that selfish?
Most importantly, how to look at things. In my text, I'm not making excuses for Timon. I'm just describing what is happening. And it's enough to know that Timon is not bad. Need to look impartially.
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Re: Timon

Postby juhouh » October 18th, 2013, 6:55 pm

I like his friend Pumbaa more. Timon is quite annoying (in the movie) but in the TV series he's cool. Made me always laugh as a kid
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Re: Timon

Postby Regulus » October 18th, 2013, 9:20 pm

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Re: Timon

Postby Zonofon » October 22nd, 2013, 9:08 pm

Not all are created for everyday work. They believe that it is necessary to facilitate this work. Sometimes it is only concept. But sometimes it turns out to implement.
If Timon did not leave the colony, then so would have continued meerkats dig tunnels. Timon is a bad worker. I admit. But not because of disrespect to the other meerkats. The case of two things. The first is his laziness. I can not deny it. But often laziness is the engine of progress.
But this is not the most important thing. I think the most important is the nature of Timon. Timon is dreamer. He can not live a monotonous life. He did not consider other meerkats worse (he had nothing bad to say about the others and thought that he is above the others), but he felt that others did not understand him. And it's true. Timon was just different. After all, we are all different. And is it bad? And I think it's good that he left the colony. It all ended very well. He brought much more benefit to the colony, than if he had just dug a tunnels.
I believe that change life is very difficult. Even harder to leave home. But Timon did not sit and complain about his life. He changed his life and and helped others.
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Re: Timon

Postby Animal of the Wild » October 30th, 2013, 12:40 am

I think he's ok in the movies, but liked him a lot better on the TV show. As flawed as that show was, I feel it portrayed Timon in a way that worked much better than the movies did. He seems rather vanilla flavored in them by comparision to his truly wacky TV counterpart.
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