Kiara's Interest as Queen

Re: Kiara's Interest as Queen

Postby KingKivuli » November 12th, 2015, 10:21 am

Considering what I have seen of TLG it seems Kion is a very young teen himself, and if Kiara is older then this is taking place after she meets Kovu, in the middle of TLK2

Of course it does beg the question..where is Kion in TLK2? My response..alternate story line. Happens all the time and honestly I do not have an issue with it
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Re: Kiara's Interest as Queen

Postby zerodix » November 12th, 2015, 11:54 am

well kiara did have a huge personality change here.. she referred to her friends in the clip
.. i assume she means tiifu and zuri?
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Re: Kiara's Interest as Queen

Postby absieb » November 12th, 2015, 1:57 pm

Also wasn't Simba against Kiara hunting? Why was he saying she should go track gazelles?
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Re: Kiara's Interest as Queen

Postby Elton John » November 12th, 2015, 1:59 pm

Simba was against kiara hunting alone..... I think...
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Re: Kiara's Interest as Queen

Postby SimbasGuard » November 13th, 2015, 1:01 am

[quote="KingKivuli"]Of course it does beg the question..where is Kion in TLK2? My response..alternate story line. Happens all the time and honestly I do not have an issue with it[/quote]

I hope that Disney does not go that route with The Lion Guard, but if that is what they do. Then I'll just have to adjust to it.
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Re: Kiara's Interest as Queen

Postby Hatari05 » November 13th, 2015, 3:43 pm

I have no problem with it being an alternate continuity after all what writer wants to tied down by a past continuity. As much as I like Simba's pride and believe me I doubt there are many who love that movie as much as I do, I still like the idea of getting a different story yes they could tie them together I've explained how already but it's not a requirement. If they follow lion king II they are limited with what they can do with certain characters like Nuka and Zira while if they have it after it they're required to follow up the ending of Simba's pride. Either way it doesn't matter to me if it ties into Lion King II cool awesome if not no biggie so long as the story is good.

As I've already said if Zira and the outsiders are introduced I would rather the show not be tied down by LK2 and free to do whatever it wants with the characters it can't do that if all of them are required to be alive. Regardless of what they do I still hope to see Zira again she could be a truly terrifying adversary for the guard and as I said once a perfect Knight of cerebus for the show.

The only real problem I have so far is Kiara I don't like what they are doing with her. Kiara was the one who struggled with who she was, "I'm not just a princess that's only half of who I am" Kiara didn't know what her place was one of her conflicts was struggling to find it she did not have her life figured out it was only through her relationship with Kovu that Kiara understood her purpose to bring everyone together. Kiara had no idea what her place was she would never say what she said to Kion.

Kiara also seems mean this is my biggest problem Kiara is not mean or even rude or arrogant that goes against the entire character. Kiara is probably the most compassionate character in the franchise, she befriended an outsider and even did everything possible to make him feel comfortable around her, this is how she treats someone she doesn't know her response to her brother is completely out of character. If you are going to use Kiara respect her character having her diss Kion only to then be injured and have to be saved by him which makes her appreciate him more is not a good portrayal of the character, it's making her look bad to make Kion look good, it's demeaning to Kiara's character. I am looking forward to the show but I don't like what they are doing with Kiara.
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Re: Kiara's Interest as Queen

Postby Elton John » November 13th, 2015, 3:49 pm

Kiara didn't seem 'mean' in a malicious way. It's a sibling thing, with my sister we poked fun at each other but we never meant most of what we said and at the end of the day no grudges were held.
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Re: Kiara's Interest as Queen

Postby gothprincesskiara » November 13th, 2015, 5:26 pm

yeah and as we have all said before, kids grow up to be teens then adults, when they are kids they dont have life figured out yet, by teen years they can be snobby brats then by young adults they mature up more, so I would see this as character changes with her stages in life, everyone goes through it, that's why i said before people change, we are never the same person after we grow up, this may not be true for some but for most people it does.
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Re: Kiara's Interest as Queen

Postby SimbasGuard » November 14th, 2015, 6:44 am

For me continuity is very important. No writer wants to be tied down by previous continuity when they are creating something new. However when working on a previously established franchise it is very important. If the new Star Wars movie were to take the approach that episodes 4-6 didn't happen Jedi and Sith alike would unite to crush Disney. Tight continuity is a big part of the success of the Marvel movies. Ant-Man (Which I felt was a very good movie) had the worst opening of any Marvel movie yet and it was still number #1 in the Box Office. Would it have been that successful if it was not part of The Marvel Cinematic Universe? I doubt it.

Reboots are O.K. but it is important that what came before be respected if not represented. One of My favorite properties Masters of the Universe has had a few reboots. (even to the point of having conflicting canons at the same time.). That works when the fan is then allowed to decide for themselves what elements of what canon they what to use. Perhaps this approach could be used on The Lion Guard.

It is also possible to enjoy a franchise that ignores it's own continuity such as The All Dogs Go To Heaven Franchise. However each film is (at least in my opinion) is somewhat lessened by the fact that the sequels ignore each other.
Then there are things like The Lion King that are so awesome and timeless that a reboot of any kind is not needed. If something is not broke don't fix it. If Lion Guard is an alternate continuity, to me that says that either Lion King 2 is to be forgotten, or Lion Guard it not to be taken seriously. That would put it in the same league as Timon and Pumbaa, which judging by the previews. It is already better than.

I think tying The Lion Guard in with Lion King 2 would ultimately lead to stronger stories and with the series being set within Lion King 2 writers would have all the freedom they needed, because there is so much of Kiara's life as a cub that we did not see. In fact the only characters that need to be alive at the end of the series are the ones in Lion King 2. Although I will be shocked if anyone actually dies in The Lion Guard.

Also by tying The Lion Guard in with Lion King 2 provides a better opportunity to grow the franchise. We have all seen Kiara grow up so what is Kion like as an adult.
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