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Re: Kovu

Postby atouchofgrace » November 28th, 2010, 10:29 pm

I like Kovu even though I love Simba. I just don't like Simba's Pride at all.
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Re: Kovu

Postby Miharuka » November 29th, 2010, 3:58 pm

Why not TPAM?? Ö
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Re: Kovu

Postby atouchofgrace » November 29th, 2010, 9:05 pm

[quote="Phantomhive"]Why not TPAM?? Ö[/quote]

Well, here it goes... (please, don't shoot me!)

- Crappy animation (it's not that bad, but it's not that good at all)
- The old characters don't act and look like themselves
- Music is fine but not fantastic ("He Lives In You", "Love Will Find a Way" and "We Are One" are very good, "One Of Us" is good, "My Lullaby" is average and "Upendi" is horrible)
- The underscore is weak.
- Nala, Timon, Pumbaa, Zazu are all completly useless. Timon and Pumbaa have a few unfunny and awkward lines, Nala acts like a Stepford Wife, just sits in the background and is there to console Simba, Rafiki acted like a monkey version of Professor Bambo.
- Simba is completly out of character. I know some of you may say "Oh he's just trying to protect his daughter..." but he is way too over the top and since we got no real background of Zira's story and what's really behind all that situation, I can't relate to that. And really? He needs to send Timon and Pumbaa following Kiara every second of the day? Pathetic. If you are that worried, take care of her yourself OR, I don't know, her own mother can do it...
- Adult Kiara is too much of a Mary Sue for my taste. I don't get it: she falls in love with a guy in a day, her father is attacked, is wounded, the guy she loves is presumably guilty and she stays on his side? Wow, what a daughter... Heck, even Nala seemed pretty upset about that. What a wife! I feel she is the same spoiled little girl from the beginning to the end and she ends up good, she gets what she wants: her boyfriend. I don't mind cub Kiara, she's adorable.
- No backstory for many of the events and relations between the characters.
- It tries too hard to be the first one: "Ew, gross!", baby presentation, Kiara gets in trouble, Simba teaches her a lesson, there's a fire, a stampede, a fight at the end, watching the stars, "Love Will Find a Way" has some moments from "Can You Feel The Love Tonight", having a certain 'code' for remembering each other in the future, etc...
- I like Kovu and all but his sudden personality change is too rushed. He thinks one way all his life, then falls in love with a girl in one day, changes completly and betrays his family.
- It has some corny moments: "Upendi" (ugh!), Mufasa smiling in the sky and talking to Simba (it should be an epic once in a lifetime event and that's it, not a "grandpa is living in Florida" thing.)
- And the fact that SP's director claims this movie is as great as the first one. Really?

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I know the "falling in love in a day" applies to most of Disney movies but I'm not a Disney fan, per se. I love "The Lion King", like 3 or 4 more movies and that's it.

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Re: Kovu

Postby Miharuka » November 29th, 2010, 9:26 pm

Wow...you sure have a lot of reasons, haha! :P

Hmm..some of them I understand some I don't understand. But that's just my opinion. :P
But I kinda agree at some parts,
And the first movie was better.

And Professor Babo has a weird hat.. o.o''

And ofcourse we wouldn't shoot you or something. Everyone is free to have their opinion about this movie. :innocent3:
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Re: Kovu

Postby atouchofgrace » November 29th, 2010, 10:50 pm

[quote="Phantomhive"]Wow...you sure have a lot of reasons, haha! :P

Hmm..some of them I understand some I don't understand. But that's just my opinion. :P
But I kinda agree at some parts,
And the first movie was better.

And Professor Babo has a weird hat.. o.o''

And ofcourse we wouldn't shoot you or something. Everyone is free to have their opinion about this movie. :innocent3:[/quote]

Thank you. I don't like to say I don't enjoy a certain movie just for the sake of it.
The Bambo guy is this crazy psychic/matchmaker. A total nut. He's currently in jail.
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Re: Kovu

Postby TheRoguePrince » November 30th, 2010, 2:12 am

nice, but how does this relate to Kovu? may I ask?
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Re: Kovu

Postby KingKivuli » December 3rd, 2010, 6:53 am

my fav character of everyone <3 yes i would date kovu if he was real lol

idk what it is but i always adore characters with the dark past, might have something to do with my own life experience. cute as a cub, badass when evil and loving in the end, but you know he will still rip you apart if he has to ^^
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Re: Kovu

Postby TheRoguePrince » December 3rd, 2010, 4:12 pm

I believe it has to do with the fact that Kovu has a conflict both external and internal. Not only is he forced to choose sides in a conflict involving his family and his love, but also he is engaged in a struggle to decide who he wants to be. His entire life has been filled with lessons of hatred and vegance, but now he sees this is wrong. It is not as simple as changing sides though, Kovu is attached by blood and by friendship to the outlanders even though he is in love with the Princess. This makes his fight even more difficult than the standard, valiant achetypical hero. Kovu in the end become both strong physically and emotionally as he makes the decisions necessary to succeed in his goals.
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Re: Kovu

Postby jelle » December 3rd, 2010, 4:28 pm

Kovu in my heart 24/7
(no not in a love type of thing just a big fan)
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Re: Kovu

Postby TheRoguePrince » December 3rd, 2010, 4:31 pm

ok, that would make sense I guess, Kovu is indeed awesome
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