Was Scar really THAT bad?

[starlioness]

well, I'd be pretty mad too .. If everything I wanted was taken away from me.. Since Mufasa has the throne. probably was the family favorite,had friends galore, was never shunned because he was small and weaker, and being the younger brother.. and probably never had a chance to prove himself worthy of being a king prior to Mufasa's murder ... not to mention he lost all hope of being King.. when that little hairball was born.. how would you like it if someone promised you something.. and have it snatched away.. because some punk kid was born.. granted that's not Simba's fault.. Mufasa was just being a royal dope .. granted Scar screwed up after he had got the throne but if his hate hadn't taken over he would've been o.k I think..

[Moka]

Well he was never really promised anything officially. And that was the problem. I think its a classic character personality for a villain. Especially one that is in the family. It really makes for a great story.

Scar wasn't the best king as we saw...The Pridelands got turned around. But I think that was mostly the hyena's fault. They trashed the place and made it look like the graveyard. Maybe if he hadn't invited the hyenas, the Pridelands would've looked like they should have.

[starlioness]

well, Scar did say he was first in line. after Mufasa.. so yeah, I guess he wasn't promised the throne.. but Simba's birth pretty much ruined his chances of being King.. unless he wanted be a really lion after Simba's death or whatever..


there's been some speculation of whether there is some truth to Scar's Line about Mufasa's death being the Hyenas Idea.. now remember that Kovu was really Zira 's puppet and he wouldn't be able to a darn thing on his own without Zira's approval.. I think maybe when Scar was younger there may have been a discussion amongst the Hyenas( not necessarily the Trio, probably some other Hyenas in the Clan) .. to get a lion they could control while they were in charge of the pridelands.. they could've probably blackmailed or put in his head that he would be a great King with Hyena backup.. (though they would really be calling the shots).. err just thinking about that.. ;;) but I think Scar outsmarted them in the end.. but let his ego take over and screwed everyone in the process..

[Panda-chan]

Woah, I never thought of it that way. Somehow I think they'd be too stupid to make up a plan like that, even with all the hyenas combined. But maybe they were all pretending to be dumb even though they were actually really smart? I dunno, my head hurts.

[Majordomo]

Yes, Scar really was that bad.
- He tried to kill his nephew and his nephew's friend.
- He succeeded in killing his own brother, and thought he had also succeeded in killing his nephew.
- Through this all, he felt no remorse. The only bit shown is in the eulogy, and we all know that was insincere.
- He single-handedly planned and executed a coup in the space of one day. One night, even.

Any 'proof' that Scar possibly had a rough childhood is fan-made. There is no evidence that Scar's father was abusive. There is no evidence that Mufasa was snobby. There is no evidence that Scar was unpopular. There's not even evidence that he and Zira had any sort of relationship, though that's not relevant to the topic at hand. His Scar is the only possible indication of a rough past, but even that could have been given to him by himself, by a clumsy move, as a birthmark, or even by the hyenas. Nobody knows how he got it (since the semi-canon water buffalo scenario is generally thought of as boring and unrealistic), so all of these are just as viable as the more popular theories. Even going with the Buffalo story, that's his own fault and completely unrelated to his power hunger.

[Panda-chan]

Nicely said Majordomo, but wouldn't you feel maybe a little jealousy if you always wanted to be king and knew that day would never come? I'm just saying even one of us might be tempted to usurp the throne just for the power you know you'll never have (but hopefully not killing anyone in the process ).

[whitewolf17]

I say his actions were evil but nobody can be all bad. I think he did have a suck childhood having to live in his brother's shadow and fail at trying to kill him and getting hurt himself. I think his experiences turned him bad and only made his hate and anger worse until he actually carried his plans out.

[Majordomo]

[quote="Amanda"]Nicely said Majordomo, but wouldn't you feel maybe a little jealousy if you always wanted to be king and knew that day would never come? I'm just saying even one of us might be tempted to usurp the throne just for the power you know you'll never have (but hopefully not killing anyone in the process ).[/quote]
Yes, and then we'd be evil for doing so. Wasn't "deliberately depriving someone else for your personal gain" a bad thing last I checked?

[Mike]

I'm sorry, but this just about sums it up for me:



He's <enjoying> it. The deeds can possibly be explained away, but not the sadistic pleasure he takes from them :\

[Panda-chan]

Exactly.
Look at the picture below. It's the part when Simba's crying because Mufasa is dead. You can see Scar in the background. He's scowling. Can you believe that? Poor Simba's dad just died and that evil crazy psycho doesn't even care. No one was watching him in this scene so it wasn't like he was making it up or anything. This is how he truely feels. Do you see any guilt or sadness in that face? I don't.
Where's that sweet innocent mistreated cubby Taka now?