If Kiara doesn't want to be queen, who will be Simba's heir?

Re: If Kiara doesn't want to be queen, who will be Simba's h

Postby WhiteFang » July 28th, 2011, 11:55 pm

[quote="TheLionPrince"]But, it is debatable over whether Kovu was a legitimate heir to the throne (through Scar alone),[/quote]

Yes, I suppose it is. ^^ As you remarked, I just went by the way that the only character who implies the legitimicity is Zira who has totally backwards/upside-down view of the kingdom. :p

[quote="TheLionPrince"]About your second argument, I did state in my opening that if Kiara doesn't take the throne, and if Kovu doesn't want to be Simba's heir, then, Simba and Nala might as well, mate again.[/quotr]

Oh, I missed that one. Wouldn't have repeated it otherwise. ^^
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Re: If Kiara doesn't want to be queen, who will be Simba's h

Postby Azdgari » July 29th, 2011, 12:42 am

Who would be Simba's heir if Kiara didn't want to be? That would be a very awkward situation, since she's the only cub in the pride at that point. x3
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Re: If Kiara doesn't want to be queen, who will be Simba's h

Postby Misiziri » July 29th, 2011, 12:43 am

Maybe Simba and Nala would simply... mate again :B
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Re: If Kiara doesn't want to be queen, who will be Simba's h

Postby Question » August 21st, 2011, 9:21 pm

[quote="Pixie"]I don't think Kiara still felt that way. She was young when she said that. I think her and Kovu will be king and queen.[/quote]
^ This. xD But most likely Kovu and Kiara would have cubs, so them. Or you can say the Kopa theory.
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Re: If Kiara doesn't want to be queen, who will be Simba's h

Postby Golionking » August 23rd, 2011, 6:28 pm

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Re: If Kiara doesn't want to be queen, who will be Simba's h

Postby Panda-chan » August 23rd, 2011, 9:05 pm

I don't think Kiara really had a choice, since she is literally the only known heir to the throne. Simba said it himself, "That's like saying you don't want to be a lion. It's in your blood..."
Kovu can be ruled out because even though Scar was of royal descent, he was never a legitimate king and thus had no right pick an heir. Neither Vitani nor Nuka would be heirs either since as I said Scar was never actually king. Now if Simba had died in the desert, that would have made him rightful heir to Mufasa as Mufasa's bloodline would have been lost and well... everything would have been different lol. :P
So since Kiara is the only heir left to the throne, she has no choice but to be queen when she grows up. But if she simply refused or died, Simba would probably have to handpick another lioness within the pride to be his heir...which would suck, because Kiara grew up with all his training. :P
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Re: If Kiara doesn't want to be queen, who will be Simba's h

Postby MuddyMufasa » October 3rd, 2011, 10:54 pm

I believe that Kiara would probably go on being the ruler. Sure, she may have said she didn't want to be queen, but she was just a little cub then. I think she was just fed up with everybody treating her like a princess and not letting her go out on her own.
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Re: If Kiara doesn't want to be queen, who will be Simba's h

Postby Katelyn23 » October 4th, 2011, 2:17 am

I think Kiara does want to be queen. She did act like a leader at the end of TLK2 afterall. I think when she said she didn't want to be queen, it's because she was young, and just bothered like Muddy pointed out that she was always treated like a princess and could not do the things she wanted to do. So yes, Kiara probably will be the heir to the throne. I couldn't see her saying she really didn't want it when she was older and more mature.
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Re: If Kiara doesn't want to be queen, who will be Simba's h

Postby Ophelia » October 4th, 2011, 2:23 pm

[quote="Katelyn23"]I think Kiara does want to be queen. She did act like a leader at the end of TLK2 afterall. I think when she said she didn't want to be queen, it's because she was young, and just bothered like Muddy pointed out that she was always treated like a princess and could not do the things she wanted to do. So yes, Kiara probably will be the heir to the throne. I couldn't see her saying she really didn't want it when she was older and more mature.[/quote]

I agree completely with this and Muddy's statement. I think it was just a part of her maturing and discovering that she would take the responsibility of being Queen - I think it was just a part of her development.
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Re: If Kiara doesn't want to be queen, who will be Simba's h

Postby Noah » December 3rd, 2011, 3:41 am

This is a very interesting discussion. It reminds me of an episode of 24. The President was suffering from a bomb blast and the joint chiefs had to decide if the Vice President would take over or not. :think:



[quote="TheLionPrince"]She was the only blood heir of the king and the only person trained to rule, so she'd had to take the crown whether she liked it or not.[/quote]
There is a good chance that Scar didn't have the proper training to become King, though he did anyway given the circumstances. It's true that it's never stated in the movie, but pretty much all Taka fanfiction says that Adahi gave Mufasa the teachings of the Circle of Life and not him. It would also explain his allowing of the hyenas to eat whatever they desired, he simply did not know the limits.



[quote="TheLionPrince"]But if it came down to her threatning to leave if they tried to make her, I believe Simba would've trained Kovu into a ruler and given the crown to him if Kovu wanted it.[/quote]
I would assume this is what really happened.




[quote="WhiteFang"] SP suggests otherwise only through Zira who apparently thought Simba was never the rightful king.[/quote]
Keep in mind that not all of Zira's lights are on upstairs. She could be delusional. Scar may never have said that. She may not have even met Scar... :-o



[quote="MheetusMate"]Kovu will not have as many powers as her. Although in a book of TLK it states that a female cannot rule (which is pure BS)[/quote]A Disney book really said that?!? Which one? :simbahuh:



[quote="MheetusMate"]Maybe Simba and Nala would simply... mate again :B[/quote]This is the first thing that popped into my mind. Why couldn't Nala and Simba have another? :lick2: Speaking of which, why is only one cub born each time a character gives birth? Simba and Kiara were born solo, while Kovu/Nuka/Vitani all look different ages. Most lionesses give birth to between two and five cubs at one time.
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