Did Zira want to be saved?

Re: Did Zira want to be saved?

Postby AustralianChaos » June 29th, 2010, 11:07 am

This is a tricky subject, since the seconds leading up to Zira's death can be interpreted in so many different ways.

Personally, it think she initially didn't, then reconsidered. When Kiara holds out her paw, you notice Zira makes a swipe at it...but I always saw the move as an attempt to attack and harm Kiara, not take her paw to save her.

But as several people above have mentioned, right as she's about to lose her grip, you see her eyes go wide as she realises her fate, and I believe, in that moment, she would have reconsidered, even if she knew it was far too late by then.

But as I said...tricky moment in the film, rather open to interpretation.
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Re: Did Zira want to be saved?

Postby vitanithelioness » June 29th, 2010, 1:29 pm

i think that Zira didnt want to be saved,she wanted to be a trooper for scar till the end, i personally think zira's cut death should have been shown,it shows she died bravely fighting for what she thought was right even if really it was totally wrong. i think she was trying to grab kiara's paw and pull her down woth her,just to prove that even at her dying moment she was a strong female with the willpower of one.

and for her eyes at the very end before she fell i think she was seeing things,like scar and her mother and father telling her she should have taken the help to keep getting revenge for scar and everyone who died. and she may have gotten scared and knew it was too late,also woth her cut death i would think she did that as a gesture of spite and the spirits aproved of it.

also i dont understand why they say Ziras cut death was too harsh when scar killed his only brother out of wanting to be king.
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Re: Did Zira want to be saved?

Postby Muffy » June 29th, 2010, 3:18 pm

[quote="vitanithelioness"]i think that Zira didnt want to be saved,she wanted to be a trooper for scar till the end, i personally think zira's cut death should have been shown,it shows she died bravely fighting for what she thought was right even if really it was totally wrong. i think she was trying to grab kiara's paw and pull her down woth her,just to prove that even at her dying moment she was a strong female with the willpower of one.

and for her eyes at the very end before she fell i think she was seeing things,like scar and her mother and father telling her she should have taken the help to keep getting revenge for scar and everyone who died. and she may have gotten scared and knew it was too late,also woth her cut death i would think she did that as a gesture of spite and the spirits aproved of it.

also i dont understand why they say Ziras cut death was too harsh when scar killed his only brother out of wanting to be king.[/quote]

^^ That! It makes sense that she wanted to die!
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Re: Did Zira want to be saved?

Postby AdAstrα » June 29th, 2010, 6:17 pm

I was always under the impression that she didn't want to be saved..well not by Kiara,at least. But I agree with AC,this part of the film can be interpreted in so many different ways. I guess there isn't really a definate answer to what exactly she was thinking before she fell.
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Re: Did Zira want to be saved?

Postby Mike » June 29th, 2010, 7:34 pm

I think Zira was just unable to let go of her hate, and it destroyed her in the end, very much like Scar before her.
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Re: Did Zira want to be saved?

Postby leonina » June 29th, 2010, 10:49 pm

I think that when we get desperate, we look for some help. It happened with Zira, but just because she was in danger.
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Re: Did Zira want to be saved?

Postby kovusbuddy » July 1st, 2010, 4:10 pm

nope im not sure i bet she wasnt very happy :(
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Re: Did Zira want to be saved?

Postby rich198 » July 1st, 2010, 10:25 pm

that swipe at kiaras paw the more times i watch it the more i think shes shes despretly trying to grab her paw. but if zira didt want to be saved it may have been due to her pride as similar to much she probaly doesent like to accept help
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Re: Did Zira want to be saved?

Postby TheRoguePrince » August 10th, 2010, 5:30 pm

It's a perplexing question, but I'm pretty sure that that was just a viscious swipe with claws out and all, but if it wasn't, Kiara was being very mean withdrawing her paw like that. :?
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Re: Did Zira want to be saved?

Postby Panda-chan » August 10th, 2010, 6:00 pm

[quote="TheRoguePrince"]It's a perplexing question, but I'm pretty sure that that was just a viscious swipe with claws out and all, but if it wasn't, Kiara was being very mean withdrawing her paw like that. :?[/quote]
I think she was just trying to get it out of the way of that vicious swipe lol. After that she reached down and tried to help Zira again :P
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