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Re: New Members

Postby wolfishgirl » October 23rd, 2012, 4:08 pm

I believe so, I just get irritated at times how new members well just get an account and creep on the den, and off topic sections and it seems like anything to actually do with TLK is left for older members, or just dies out.
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Re: New Members

Postby FlipMode » October 23rd, 2012, 4:12 pm

Woeler1 wrote:make the whole offtopic section visible to members only and apply a certain number of posts until you can access them.

nuff said


This. But more than 10.
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Re: New Members

Postby TheRoguePrince » October 23rd, 2012, 6:35 pm

50 sounds fine Flip, 30 might be a bit better, but now that I think about it, 10 isn't that many...
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Re: New Members

Postby TheLionPrince » October 23rd, 2012, 6:46 pm

I can agree with FlipMode and RoguePrince. Somewhere between 30 to 50 posts.
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Re: New Members

Postby WildSimba » October 23rd, 2012, 6:57 pm

TheRoguePrince wrote:Anyways, I think the power of humiliation is the best route. When the trolls remain anonymous, they can do whatever without any social backlash from the community. But since KK has admitted that the perpetrators were Kops and Simbaholic, they (and others) will be less likely to do stuff if everyone on MLK will eventually find out who were the ones who caused this.



I hope you're not serious. If the trolls identities were brought out into public every single time, it'd only be counter-productive. These people would have no reason to try and blend in anymore, and would just flat out attack us. If anything, all that would end up doing is feeding the trolls. And lol, not every troll attack ever has been made by those 2 people. I've seen normal members doing it on their own accounts. Pointing the finger at people will never help anyone, seriously.

And I agree with all the limits talked about before. The mods have agreed on doing this multiple times already, so I honestly don't know why it hasn't been done yet. lol
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Re: New Members

Postby FlipMode » October 23rd, 2012, 7:08 pm

WildSimba wrote:
TheRoguePrince wrote:Anyways, I think the power of humiliation is the best route. When the trolls remain anonymous, they can do whatever without any social backlash from the community. But since KK has admitted that the perpetrators were Kops and Simbaholic, they (and others) will be less likely to do stuff if everyone on MLK will eventually find out who were the ones who caused this.



I hope you're not serious. If the trolls identities were brought out into public every single time, it'd only be counter-productive. These people would have no reason to try and blend in anymore, and would just flat out attack us. If anything, all that would end up doing is feeding the trolls. And lol, not every troll attack ever has been made by those 2 people. I've seen normal members doing it on their own accounts. Pointing the finger at people will never help anyone, seriously.


He never did say they were the only two, he used them as an example; reading his post would have made that clear. He then went on to say that other people would be less likely to do it in future if they were name and shamed.
For what it is worth, my take is that if you are going to do something as silly as posting what was posted the other week, you should be named. I mean, if anyone does that then they are probably already banned and have no interest in returning anyway so by that logic it shouldn't matter what the community thinks of them.

WildSimba wrote:And I agree with all the limits talked about before. The mods have agreed on doing this multiple times already, so I honestly don't know why it hasn't been done yet. lol


I think I do, but I will keep it to myself for now...
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Re: New Members

Postby Kiki123 » October 23rd, 2012, 7:51 pm

This sounds great. Can we start it soon?
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Re: New Members

Postby Dare » October 23rd, 2012, 8:10 pm

A proposed 30-50 posts in order to be allowed to talk about things other than TLK, eh?
What about those of us who've been here for years, but only have...say...19 posts?
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I hate to be a noodge, but I must ask...am I to be forcibly corralled into only being able to discuss TLK then, or to post more just so I'll be able to enjoy the access that those people who post every 5 minutes have?
It's not that I don't want to discuss TLK, but TLK was not the only reason why I joined this forum.
To have access to a part of the forum only to have it suddenly taken away simply because I may not post as often as others... I'm not sure what to think about that.

Eh, I suppose this kind of thing hinges on what defines a "new" member, then? *le shrug*
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Re: New Members

Postby FlipMode » October 23rd, 2012, 8:48 pm

Dare wrote:A proposed 30-50 posts in order to be allowed to talk about things other than TLK, eh?
What about those of us who've been here for years, but only have...say...19 posts?
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I hate to be a noodge, but I must ask...am I to be forcibly corralled into only being able to discuss TLK then, or to post more just so I'll be able to enjoy the access that those people who post every 5 minutes have?
It's not that I don't want to discuss TLK, but TLK was not the only reason why I joined this forum.
To have access to a part of the forum only to have it suddenly taken away simply because I may not post as often as others... I'm not sure what to think about that.

Eh, I suppose this kind of thing hinges on what defines a "new" member, then? *le shrug*
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Well, in short, yes.
The idea is that lurkers (and yeah I will call you that since you self proclaimed it), would not be able to go into the Member Dens and such where personal information or at least messenger screen names can be found.

I don't know if, as a lurker you are aware but this forum does suffer the occasional troll attack and this countermeasure would stop those people from finding personal information which is posted in The Den and misusing it.
It's not about who posts more or who is entitled to post where, it's about keeping things safe where possible.

I totally see the point, but the hard truth is that - should this go ahead, then yes you probably would have to reach X amount of posts in the TLK section before you have the same access to OT areas. But that isn't victimising you, because it does not only effect lurkers like you, but also new members.
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Re: New Members

Postby Dare » October 23rd, 2012, 8:59 pm

Woeler1 wrote:Well... It might sound a bit rude... But if you don't post, why did you join in the first place?


That's not rude at all - it's a valid question.
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To answer, I do post - I post when I happen to see a unique topic that interests me, or when I have something to say other than things akin to "lol i like yellow" (not that there's anything wrong with that. To each their own).
I don't post much about TLK because I've discussed TLK to death already on other forums and I have very little to add to the TLK discussions taking place here, but I follow discussions, from time to time, if something unique pops up.

As for why I joined in the first place - I like hanging out with fellow TLK fans and I have several friendly acquaintances from other TLK forums who also frequent here. Actual discussion of TLK, on the other hand, is not something I'm interested in...at least, not to the point of it being my only option for discussion. I imagine I would get very bored very quickly.

FlipMode wrote:Well, in short, yes.
The idea is that lurkers (and yeah I will call you that since you self proclaimed it), would not be able to go into the Member Dens and such where personal information or at least messenger screen names can be found.

I don't know if, as a lurker you are aware but this forum does suffer the occasional troll attack and this countermeasure would stop those people from finding personal information which is posted in The Den and misusing it.
It's not about who posts more or who is entitled to post where, it's about keeping things safe where possible.

I totally see the point, but the hard truth is that - should this go ahead, then yes you probably would have to reach X amount of posts in the TLK section before you have the same access to OT areas. But that isn't victimising you, because it does not only effect lurkers like you, but also new members.


Hmm...I feared as much. :\
I am aware of the troll attacks - it's hard not to be aware of them actually, since they seem to be a popular topic in the Feedback forum, and I understand the need to keep members' information secure. Hehehe, I guess this means I'm collateral damage. It really is a shame that the careless actions of others can affect bystanders, but that's the way the world works.

Well, as I posted, TLK discussion doesn't interest me all that much, so if this does go forward...I guess you'll be seeing me in The Den around 2035 or so. Toodles!
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