Your prediction on the future of the human race

Re: Your prediction on the future of the human race

Postby Azdgari » August 11th, 2012, 6:14 am

Nah, but seriously, I'm pretty hopeful. Contrary to what it seems like a lot of y'all are feeling, I'm very optimistic about human nature. Sure, there are definitely some problems, generally either conflict over cultural differences or poor distribution of wealth in the world. Honestly for all the tyranny and that stuff, the world's on a hell of a continuum here, guys. Look at life and liberty a thousand years ago, then 500 years ago, then 100 years ago, then now. Look at the progress the world has made on human rights, peacekeeping, quality of life, medicine, clean energy, tolerance! How about tolerance? God, how far have women's rights come in the last decade in the world? How about right now as they battle for equality before Catholicism and, more importantly abroad, in Muslim countries of the far east?

We're still working out kinks to be sure. Woeler brings up a good point: capitalism encourages materialism, that's for sure. Are we cool with that? Well, it works better than any other economic systems we've got down, so I guess that's what we've got. Capitalism breeds war I guess. There really isn't -that- much war in the world: the Middle East's a mess that needs sorting out, but other than that... it's looking damn peaceful to me. Syria, I guess. Conditions in Africa? Let's talk about human nature: Remember Bill Gates, the guy who's devoting his life and 50 billion dollar fortune to charity, and has all but eliminated Malaria, saving millions of lives, out of pure goodwill? ohhh yaaaaa.

So I'm pretty confident. I look forward to declaring a double major in International Studies and Political Sciences and trying to understand and work on the problems in the world. Frankly, I think some of y'all need to go say hi to your neighbors and realize that the evil people are capable of is greatly exaggerated, while the capacity for human compassion is always underestimated. Just my opinion though, I s'pose.

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Re: Your prediction on the future of the human race

Postby SlayerOfLight » August 14th, 2012, 12:46 pm

Israel prepares for war with Iran.

Not so well....
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Re: Your prediction on the future of the human race

Postby Woeler » August 14th, 2012, 3:00 pm

[quote="Nicholas"]Israel prepares for war with Iran.

Not so well....[/quote]
Let them. It is not our business. We just let them do what they want. The US or Europe don't get involved because they have to, but because they want to. And what is worse, the reasons why both sides would start a war are ridiculously stupid.

Proves again that human intelligence has its limits, but human stupidity doesn't. The whole reason this planet is going to hell is because of human stupidity. China not wanting to change their rules to get more environment friendly is out of pure stupidity, people fighting in the middle-east is out of pure stupidity, The wars fought in the last 20 years were fought because of pure stupidity, the intolerance of other races, sexualities and religions is because of pure stupidity.

Somehow our mind gives us the idea (politicians stimulate this) that our own culture is superior to the cultures of others. We think that we somehow have the right to tell people in Africa how to live, That we somehow think we have the right to try and overpower regimes in which we have no business at all, That we somehow think that killing people so that in the end they can live under our standars is a good thing.

I already hear people scream ''but those people are poor blahblah morals BS blahblah''. No, we have made it this far without the help of others, our society is civilised because we built it bit by bit. That does not mean that we have to go to other countries and try to civilise them. Just giving money (like we do now) is useless because we totally reject the human part of this problem, which is that people need to adapt to the new system, grow into it. All we are doing now is skipping steps, and as you see, that technique fails.

We need to learn to mind our own business. We need to learn that our own culture is not superior to others. We need to learn to tolerate differences. And we need to learn that there is no value in trying to save every human being on this planet (especially not in the way we are doing it now).

We probably will solve the environmental issues, but I highly doubt the world will become one civilization.

I understand Azd's point about tolerance, and indeed we have come a long way, but we still need to go an even longer way to get to a perfect society.
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Re: Your prediction on the future of the human race

Postby wolfishgirl » August 15th, 2012, 1:32 am

Woeler, I do agree with you. We shouldn't be sticking our noses in other countries buisness. So what if they have a war. Unless they ask specifically for our help, we shouldn't bother. We weren't made to be the world's peace keepers and pretending that we are just makes it so that the other countries hate us.

Unless our generation gets our heads out of our butts and stop focusing on our selfish needs for technology and to get what we want when we want it, the world is going to belly flop.
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Re: Your prediction on the future of the human race

Postby SharpLionson » August 16th, 2012, 8:27 am

I think humans will eventually form a stable world, though I'm not sure if it'll be in my lifetime.

This expresses my issues with the modern world in a nutshell

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Re: Your prediction on the future of the human race

Postby SlayerOfLight » August 17th, 2012, 1:06 pm

[quote="Woeler1"][quote="Nicholas"]Israel prepares for war with Iran.

Not so well....[/quote]
Let them. It is not our business. We just let them do what they want. The US or Europe don't get involved because they have to, but because they want to. And what is worse, the reasons why both sides would start a war are ridiculously stupid.

Proves again that human intelligence has its limits, but human stupidity doesn't. The whole reason this planet is going to hell is because of human stupidity. China not wanting to change their rules to get more environment friendly is out of pure stupidity, people fighting in the middle-east is out of pure stupidity, The wars fought in the last 20 years were fought because of pure stupidity, the intolerance of other races, sexualities and religions is because of pure stupidity.

Somehow our mind gives us the idea (politicians stimulate this) that our own culture is superior to the cultures of others. We think that we somehow have the right to tell people in Africa how to live, That we somehow think we have the right to try and overpower regimes in which we have no business at all, That we somehow think that killing people so that in the end they can live under our standars is a good thing.

I already hear people scream ''but those people are poor blahblah morals BS blahblah''. No, we have made it this far without the help of others, our society is civilised because we built it bit by bit. That does not mean that we have to go to other countries and try to civilise them. Just giving money (like we do now) is useless because we totally reject the human part of this problem, which is that people need to adapt to the new system, grow into it. All we are doing now is skipping steps, and as you see, that technique fails.

We need to learn to mind our own business. We need to learn that our own culture is not superior to others. We need to learn to tolerate differences. And we need to learn that there is no value in trying to save every human being on this planet (especially not in the way we are doing it now).

We probably will solve the environmental issues, but I highly doubt the world will become one civilization.

I understand Azd's point about tolerance, and indeed we have come a long way, but we still need to go an even longer way to get to a perfect society.[/quote]

I already get your point on how stupid humanity is. Now, to be back on topic... it actually WOULD be our business, because for all we know a war with Israel and Iran would trigger a third world war. Especially if that craphole Iran manages to create weapons of mass destruction.

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1013/Buitenland/ ... rden.dhtml

Out of conspiracy theories, the Iranian president already has officially threatend to destroy Israel for real, even comparing Israel with a Tumor that needs to be removed from the planet. all I can say is, let's just hope that this idiot is only bluffing.
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Re: Your prediction on the future of the human race

Postby Woeler » August 17th, 2012, 4:07 pm

[quote="Nicholas"]

I already get your point on how stupid humanity is. Now, to be back on topic... it actually WOULD be our business, because for all we know a war with Israel and Iran would trigger a third world war. Especially if that craphole Iran manages to create weapons of mass destruction.

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1013/Buitenland/ ... rden.dhtml

Out of conspiracy theories, the Iranian president already has officially threatend to destroy Israel for real, even comparing Israel with a Tumor that needs to be removed from the planet. all I can say is, let's just hope that this idiot is only bluffing.[/quote]

That argument was so subjective, I'm not even going to reply...
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Re: Your prediction on the future of the human race

Postby SlayerOfLight » August 17th, 2012, 4:10 pm

[quote="Woeler1"][quote="Nicholas"]

I already get your point on how stupid humanity is. Now, to be back on topic... it actually WOULD be our business, because for all we know a war with Israel and Iran would trigger a third world war. Especially if that craphole Iran manages to create weapons of mass destruction.

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1013/Buitenland/ ... rden.dhtml

Out of conspiracy theories, the Iranian president already has officially threatend to destroy Israel for real, even comparing Israel with a Tumor that needs to be removed from the planet. all I can say is, let's just hope that this idiot is only bluffing.[/quote]

That argument was so subjective, I'm not even going to reply...[/quote]

oh right, I forgot that you always ''know'' everything better then anyone. So I beg your pardon for wasting my time even talking with you.
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Re: Your prediction on the future of the human race

Postby Woeler » August 17th, 2012, 4:21 pm

[quote="Nicholas"]

oh right, I forgot that you always ''know'' everything better then anyone. So I beg your pardon for wasting my time even talking with you.[/quote]
At least you got one fact right
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Re: Your prediction on the future of the human race

Postby SlayerOfLight » August 17th, 2012, 4:26 pm

[quote="Woeler1"][quote="Nicholas"]

oh right, I forgot that you always ''know'' everything better then anyone. So I beg your pardon for wasting my time even talking with you.[/quote]
At least you got one fact right[/quote]


Actually because I wrote ''know'' instead of know, it turns your little fact upside down whitout you even realising it.
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