Election Day 2012

Who should win?

Obama
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69%
Romney
11
21%
Undecided
5
10%
 
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby Azdgari » September 1st, 2012, 6:46 am

I'm confused. I'm pretty sure the last thing Romney plans to do is raise taxes.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby Tora » September 1st, 2012, 6:48 am

Maybe I'm wrong but all I have heard him talk about was not raising taxes but to cut tax cuts. :?
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby Azdgari » September 1st, 2012, 6:49 am

I don't think so, not the Bush-era tax cuts at least. He's rock solid on keeping taxes low.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby TheLionPrince » September 3rd, 2012, 1:01 am

Azdgari wrote:Wadja guys think?


About the Republican National Convention? If that's what you are referring to?

Tora wrote:I honestly think that Obama is going to win solely on the basis of him being the incumbent, and that Romney isn't right for the job. Raising taxes is no different than cutting tax cuts. Either way people aren't going to like it.


Well, not one incumbent president since FDR has re-elected with over 7.2% unemployment. Unemployment in the United States is currently at 8.3%. It'll take a miracle for Obama to get re-elected.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby Carl » September 3rd, 2012, 1:07 am

TheLionPrince wrote:It'll take a miracle for Obama to get re-elected.


I certainly hope not. I mean I hate all politics and politicians, but Romney is... well, I don't want him to be elected.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby Azdgari » September 3rd, 2012, 5:45 am

Bold words, TLP. The numbers show Obama just barely ahead, so I wouldn't say it's a miracle.

On what grounds do you support Romney?



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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby Tora » September 3rd, 2012, 6:23 am

Its actually at 8.2% and Romney really shows no promise of Jobs; so regardless I foresee an Obama victory.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby Azdgari » September 3rd, 2012, 6:35 am

Hummmmm.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby TheLionPrince » September 3rd, 2012, 8:28 pm

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TheLionPrince wrote:Well, not one incumbent president since FDR has re-elected with over 7.2% unemployment. Unemployment in the United States is currently at 8.3%. It'll take a miracle for Obama to get re-elected.

A rather unrealistic claim, since Obama is still ahead of Romney


Well, it depends on which presidential poll you are referring to. Here's a list of all the lasted polls tallied in the last few days: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/ Some of these polls whether national or state show Romney over Obama, vice versa, or tied. Not to mention, various polls by different demographics: white, black, Latino, old, young, men, women, and so on. Those polls are bound to have different results.

Azdgari wrote:On what grounds do you support Romney?


Tax reform, oil expansion, less goverment regulation of the economy, trading policies, gay marriage, support for Israel, and lower the national deficit.

Don't support with him on invading Iran and wanting to overturn Roe v. Wade

Not sure on his stance on health care
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby TheLionPrince » September 3rd, 2012, 9:19 pm

Woeler1 wrote:
TheLionPrince wrote:oil expansion

You guys never get enough of that, do you?


LOL! To be more specific, the TransCanada's Keystone XL pipeline. Obama vowed to stop America's reliance on foreign oil during the 2008 election, yet he postponed drilling here for whatever reason he had.

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TheLionPrince wrote: less goverment regulation of the economy

Yes, we are suffering from a HUGE crisis and we should give the economy to the people. Don't really think that will turn out good...


Well, from what I've read on this website, Obama's regulations are killing jobs.

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TheLionPrince wrote:gay marriage

I don't even see what or who gives politicians (or anyone else) the right to deny gay people love, happiness and marriage. We're not living in the 14th century anymore. I can see how people can be against abortion, and maybe euthanasia, but this is just plain discrimination.


I said it before, and I'll say it again. 30 out of 50 states in the U.S. turned it down, voted on by politicians gays and gay marriage-supporting heterosexuals voted into office. People turned out in droves in support of Chick-a-Fil, when various mayors were preventing their establishment in their respective cities.

But, if it makes you happy, Congress overturned the Defense of Marriage Act, and gays can serve openly in the army.

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TheLionPrince wrote:support for Israel

hmmm, yeah, how about using that money on a decent healthcare system? Is it really worth two countries fighting over who has a better friend in the sky?

I see that they are really, really close in numbers. This is going to be a really, really interesting election. I'm sure as hell gonna stay up that night! (European timezones lol)


I do support a decent health care system. And considering Iran developing nuclear weapons to create hostile genocide of Israeli Jews, it is worth supporting Israel. Though, starting a war with Iran, which I don't support, will do more harm than good, and is not the answer.

And yes, this election results are very tight! It's anybody's game.
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