Do You Believe in Ghosts or Spirits?

[Thegeni99]

^ *gets all serious*
Where is this building located? Exactly what city? I enjoy all evidence other fellow believers capture, and experience. I would love to share your information with the GAC.

[Mozart]

I have read your comments about this debate, I found some good, some not so much but give my opinion to this debate.

Let's see. I find it impossible to believe that of all the testimonis, witnesses and victims of the spirits and ghosts all be a sham. In all at least one must be true.

As I see in a town back in the United States has the largest country ghostly activity and perhaps the world. I do not think that evidence of that people say is a lie to draw the attention of the community, at least 90% of the stories must be true.

Pity we did not and had the fortune or misfortune of seeing a ghost or spirit, I think only once when I felt someone touched his shoulder and turn and not see anyone. But I really wanted to have paranormal presences.

[KopsTheTerminator]

http://www.cracked.com/article_18828_th ... tings.html

Thought this would be interesting to share.

[Eli_Ayase]

I believe in them. Even in dark shadow spirits which we can call demons. (Don't you all start bashing me, this is what I PERSONALY think)

Alright, I believe in them because they ARE and WILL be real for the love of Jesus Christ >.>.
I've seen real things like that as well, I've seen a dark-shadow spirit out of the corner of my eye, in a blink of an eye, it disappeared, NO I'M NOT INSANE! These things are real, as well are ghosts, do you think this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0P2Ih5eiuE Is false!?!? The guys completely DIDN'T edit the video, a boy ghost is standing against the Stonehenge rock, for sure, I can gurantee it isn't the sun light, my eyes are sharp, I know how a sunlight should shine, and I believe what I see. Hate me, bash me, but this is what I believe

[KopsTheTerminator]

Look at the link I posted, it explains the shadow on the corner of your eye on the second page.

And lol, the video looks fake. Or it's just a coincidence... or the rock is lighter in that certain spot, who knows? What would a ghost be doing there, anyway? And if ghosts are real, then they're literally everywhere in the planet, even in our houses. ;D

[Eli_Ayase]

The thing I saw wasn't anything like that, like it is written in the second page >.> I was fully slept, fully active and not even tired, shadows/dark-spirits are around whenever they want to appear, this is even like saying Jesus Christ didn't exist =P by which he did.

Hm, to me, it isn't fake, and I doubt that rock is lighter then it has to be. Ghosts don't need to be ALWAYS in every house, mostly they can be in lost and abondoned houses. Like old castles, ancient demolished old houses and places, spirits and ghosts even are around the places where the person of the ghost/spirit died.

[KopsTheTerminator]

There isn't any historical evidence that Jesus existed though XD There isn't any evidence to prove that that video is real in any way.

In the engineering building where Tandy worked, cleaning staff as well as fellow researchers complained of feeling dread, depression and a strange feeling that someone was watching them. But what made the situation really worthy of a Scooby-Do episode was the fact that every so often the staff would see dark figures out of the corners of their eyes. Now we're talking.

After one particularly strange experience when a gray shape sat next to his desk for several minutes, Vic Tandy was determined to figure out what the hell was going on. Being a man of science, he was going to skip the part where he had an exorcist come and bless the facility.

After eliminating gas poisoning and rogue equipment, Vic realized that the ghostly apparitions seemed to almost always occur in a certain section of the lab. He also realized that if he put a metal sheet in a vice, it would spontaneously vibrate uncontrollably for no apparent reason. Poltergeist, right?

No. Just infrasound.

Specifically, a "silent" exhaust fan was sending out low frequency vibrations that bounced back and forth on the lab's walls until they formed a powerful wave at... 18.9Hz. Right at the top of the panic range.

And, according to a NASA study, it was powerful enough to resonate with the average human eyeball, causing "smeared" vision. This is a phenomenon where the eye vibrates just enough to register something static -- say, the frame of your glasses or a speck of dust -- as large, moving shapes.

Predictably enough, once the vibrating fan was removed, the strange apparitions and feelings of fear disappeared.

Also, people have died practically everywhere in the world. That would make the entire planet haunted.

[Eli_Ayase]

Jesus was for real, no need to find proof because everyone knows science (or whatever) isn't always right.

Hm, that quote doesn't seem like me really >_> <_< I know it wasn't anything that is written there.

To the Quote:

1 - I don't watch Scooby-Doo I didn't had a vision of GREY shapes, but black.

2 - About the infrasound: I am FULLY sure my room was very silent and didn't had anything tuned up, not even music or something, and I did hear a hissing voice. No, that wasn't the fridge or something because I was alone home and in my room.

3 - I had my eyes clear and didn't have a speck of dust in them. And I don't even wear glasses >_> <_<
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But overall, I said what I BELIEVE, no need to try and proove me with something I wouldn't believe in which you belive. xD just sayin'

[KopsTheTerminator]

Nobody has ever found any evidence for his existence, therefore until we find any (other than the Bible, depends whether you find it a reliable source), we can't just say 'he existed cuz I said so.' With that logic, I can start claiming that gravity doesn't exist. xD (Anyways, let's stop this. It kinda sucks discussing this since I'm a Christian lmao.)

1. Where does it mention any grey or black stripes? It says 'shape'. xD The staff also had visions of 'dark' figures, so it could have been just the particular person's eyes.

2. The first page mentions that you cannot conciously hear the infrasound.

What he had discovered, aside from an awesome new way to torture interns, was infrasound. It's noise at a low enough frequency that you don't consciously hear it, but your ears still sense it. The process of receiving sensory input without your conscious mind understanding where it's coming from wreaks havoc with your emotions. Specifically, researchers found that sounds between 7 and 19 Hz it could induce fear, dread or panic.

3. Those were only examples, and how can you be completely sure? Maybe you hadn't blinked for a while. :B

I don't completely reject the concept, but I'll believe it only when it occurs to me and there's no other explanation.

[Eli_Ayase]

Lol, same here, I dunno why I even brought that up xD


I didn't say stripes.

My bad then. But I hear stuff anyway. Even if my room is silent and I'm perfectly fine.

Lol, my eyes would hurt if I don't blink, but I can be sure my eyes weren't playing tricks on me. Nor was my mind.

But now, I'll leave this before someone else will now start posting something to me, because I only wrote what I think, I don't need to myself proof that something in what I believe is true to me, sure many may call me insane, crazy or wierd, or just a moron who thinks that spirits are real.
But please don't force me believeing in something I don't, I believe in spirits, others may don't, I'm not saying you all shall believe it, if I believe, I ain't focing you to believe in what you don't, lol :B

Don't hate me or post against me ^-^;;;;;;;;;; *flees away forever from the topic*