Election Day 2012

Who should win?

Obama
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69%
Romney
11
21%
Undecided
5
10%
 
Total votes : 52

Re: Election Day 2012

Postby DGFone » November 7th, 2012, 7:24 am

Woeler1 wrote:@TRP Building a mosque on ground zero? Ever heard of the term respect? That is something the government should get involved in, not marriage which is NONE of their business.

@dgf, Obama won, I don't know how, he just did. Yes, I do find your system weird and nonfunctional. This whole state thing is weird. Normally votes are counted and the one with the most votes wins. Our prime-minister is not some populistic dude that bombards us with commercials. He's just a middle-class man, just like all the other government officials.

But I grew up with this system, ot yours. I am just happy that Obama won. Because like Bill Maher said: if Romney would have won he would have pulled all the youngearth people, the anti-science-crowd and the religiousvalues fest in the whitehouse as well.


TRP is right about the so-called mosque. It's private land and the owners are free to do with it as they please. Whether they have respect for others or not is not government matter.

And you do know that Bill Maher, is you know, a comedian? To say "I support Obama because Romney will X, Y, and Z according to this comedian..." It's a bit, mental, don't you think? Maher said it because it's funny, not because it's true.

Anyways, the only way to see if Obama is the right choice or not is by seeing how he will behave during his second term.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby DGFone » November 7th, 2012, 7:28 am

I can argue about that, but I won't. :P

Besides, I don't see you arguing about judging Obama by the next four years, so I take it you agree with me there. 8-)
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby TheRoguePrince » November 7th, 2012, 7:29 am

Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. :ugh2:

You mean Woeler actually is against the Ground Zero mosque? That's really surprising to me. You always seemed very very pro-Freedoms. Anyways, I never said it was a good idea. I simply said that it's a private deal and does not involved Obama at all. But yes, I believe that it's a bad move to put it there. The builders should have more respect.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby DGFone » November 7th, 2012, 7:31 am

TheRoguePrince wrote:Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. :ugh2:

You mean Woeler actually is against the Ground Zero mosque? That's really surprising to me. You always seemed very very pro-Freedoms. Anyways, I never said it was a good idea. I simply said that it's a private deal and does not involved Obama at all. But yes, I believe that it's a bad move to put it there. The builders should have more respect.


Woeler's anti-religion feelings tend to override his pro-freedom stances 100% of the time.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby DGFone » November 7th, 2012, 9:23 am

Woeler1 wrote:Forgive me but I have class now


For all of you who want a bi-partisan government to do great, work together, and fix the United States...

...prepare for four years of disappointment. In fact, if you want to see anything get done, prepare to be disappointed. Be prepared. :evil:
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby Azdgari » November 7th, 2012, 1:25 pm

DGFone wrote:
Woeler1 wrote:Forgive me but I have class now


For all of you who want a bi-partisan government to do great, work together, and fix the United States...

...prepare for four years of disappointment. In fact, if you want to see anything get done, prepare to be disappointed. Be prepared. :evil:

Well, perhaps this time one of the parties will not cite their sole goal as "Keeping president Obama a one-term president." Maybe this time it'll be, "Help the American people." What a thought!
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby DGFone » November 7th, 2012, 5:35 pm

And now: The financial impact of the voting.

I woke up today to find out that not only has Obama been reelected (something I already knew), but that California also passed just about every tax measure it had. So now not only am I displeased with the election results, I am also calmly informed that there is a high probability that my family will not be able to afford living here anymore, and will have to move out. This will almost certainly impact my college education in a negative way, so let me make it loud and clear:

Unless you want to send you an extremely angry letter, DO NOT tell me how great it is that someone who promised to legalize gay marriage got elected is a good thing.

Disappointed doesn't even begin to express how I feel like at the moment.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby DGFone » November 7th, 2012, 5:54 pm

Woeler1 wrote:^so what are those tax-measures and where can I ind them? Or are you talking about prop. 30...


Prop 30 is only one of the many tax measures that got passed. Now add a democratic president who likes taxes to solve problems to the equation and do the math:

I predict that California is going to suffer as everyone with money will move out because they can, and those with just enough will try to move out because they must just to survive.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby Regulus » November 7th, 2012, 6:35 pm

DGFone wrote:And now: The financial impact of the voting.

I woke up today to find out that not only has Obama been reelected (something I already knew), but that California also passed just about every tax measure it had. So now not only am I displeased with the election results, I am also calmly informed that there is a high probability that my family will not be able to afford living here anymore, and will have to move out. This will almost certainly impact my college education in a negative way, so let me make it loud and clear:

Unless you want to send you an extremely angry letter, DO NOT tell me how great it is that someone who promised to legalize gay marriage got elected is a good thing.

Disappointed doesn't even begin to express how I feel like at the moment.


If you're in as bad of a financial situation as you say you are, apply for a Pell grant. It's basically free money provided by the government that you don't have to pay back, as long as you're going to school. The money I got from my Pell grant not only paid for my tuition, but my books as well, and I still have a thousand dollars to spend on supplies and gas to get to school after that.

http://studentaid.ed.gov/types/grants-scholarships/pell

You complain about taxes being raised, but the money is going directly to those who need it most.

And, let's not forget this is a debate thread, after all. You are free to express your opinions, of course, but do not expect to post something here without anyone else arguing and debating over it. You're gonna have a bad time.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby Dark Huntress » November 7th, 2012, 7:22 pm

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