Election Day 2012

[DGFone]

1. That's only 1 source. I want another one that agrees with you.

2. If Israel agrees that Iran is not creating a nuke, why did it assassinate Iran's leading nuclear scientist?

Some sources that tell otherwise to your story:
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/inte ... index.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/06/world ... earprogram
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/ ... RP20111118

[DGFone]

Note my sources, and look at yours. Your first source is from a religious group, and the second one is from antiwar.com.

I have to doubt your sources, Woeler. They don't look very reliable. The second one is particularly concerning about bias.

And let me edit the question I asked about Israel and Iran:

Your neighbor told you that you have no right to exist. It might or might not be developing a nuke. What do you do.

And for this, Woeler, I DO want an answer. I want to see what you will do if you were Israel.

[Regulus]

AND YES, GLOBAL WARMING 'SCIENCE' is complete [cencored]. The whole "the planet will get hotter and we will all die" is not only complete nonsense, it's been disproven so many times, it's now a joke among most scientific fields.

So before you tell me that "global warming had been proven..." Stop. Everything you read or heard about about global warming is WRONG. Scientifically PROVEN to be wrong. For example: This year, Antarctica is having an Ice Maximum. According to global warming, there should always be an ice minimum, as the ice melts and goes into the ocean. We don't know what the climate change is doing, we are only beginning to make guesses, and we basically don't know anything yet.

To say that science proved otherwise, it means that you heard pseudoscience. And by the way: I already had a lecture on why global warming is false, using physics to disprove everything that was said about it, but 1. I don't remember most of it, and 2. Non of you will understand it. Definitely not you, Woeler, who will almost certainly tell me that I'm wrong, when you aren't even qualified to do so. I'm not either, but my proof came from those who are.

Wow. That's all I can say. Between this post, and what you were saying last night about cheating the electoral college system, you've lost a lot of cool points from me.

It's okay that you don't like Obama. You have every right to vote for Romney, and that's totally fine. But to say that one candidate should win regardless of who gets the majority vote really blew my mind, especially coming from someone who seems to significantly appreciate how great democracy in America is. I thought it was a joke, hence my sarcastic "pwn'd" response.

I sincerely hope that was a joke. We don't need another 2000 election. I know the electoral college is far from perfect, and I hate it too, but at least most of the time the candidate who wins usually gets the popular vote anyway, so it does work.

But to say that the EPA is full of crap is... well... full of crap. What's next, are you going to try to argue that the world is flat?

Seriously. I cannot even believe this...

I'm sure my 'eliminate the states' argument was quite ridiculous, but I was more or less just playing the devil's advocate there.

[TheRoguePrince]

You guys have it all wrong. The US doesn't want to stop Iran from having a nuclear weapon because Iran might use it. It's because a terrorist group might get a hold of it. If Iran makes a weapon, other countries will follow suit (can't play favorites with Iran, now can we?) and then the world's most unable regional in the world will be atomic.

Those terrorist groups want American blood on their breakfast cereal and chant "Death to USA" all the live long day.

[DGFone]

It is reason, not speculating, Woeler. I think your mentality is one of the popular "Nuclear was is so bad, it can never happen". You are so afraid of Nuclear war that you refuse to admit that it might happen.

It is well known and proven that Iran is not cooperating with watchdogs over its nuclear program. If it has nothing to hide, why is it hiding more and more?

How come IAEA found some documents in Iran that tell on how to make spherical Uranium. Spherical uranium is used in these applications:
1. Bombs
2. Nothing else

And you're right, no research has found nukes in Iran yet. BECAUSE IT DOEN'T HAVE THEM YET. As for is it making them, or trying to make them? Loads of proof for both arguments. So don't tell me that I'm wrong in saying that Iran has nukes, because I never said that. So to quote you, Weak, weak, weak.

[Azdgari]

Wow, DGF, you're pretty extremist. I guess I shouldn't generalize that good or bad, but you're nowhere near as independent thinking as I thought. You're as extreme right wing as anyone I've met, barring gay marriage (and abortion?)

Also, are you smarter than all of the PhD's who've dedicated their lives to the studies and so conclusively proven climate as to create a widespread government agency to regulate the effects humans have on the environment. Food for thought.

[TheRoguePrince]

Nukes? Iran doesn't have them. They are making them.

As for proof, well...

Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency and Iran have intensified this year after an IAEA report in November 2011 said it had "credible information that Iran had carried out activities relevant to the development of a nuclear explosive device," he said.

The White House seems to think they are too. Also, they won't sign a ban against them, which is pretty suspicious for a country that isn't making them

[DGFone]

Wow, DGF, you're pretty extremist. I guess I shouldn't generalize that good or bad, but you're nowhere near as independent thinking as I thought. You're as extreme right wing as anyone I've met, barring gay marriage (and abortion?)

Also, are you smarter than all of the PhD's who've dedicated their lives to the studies and so conclusively proven climate as to create a widespread government agency to regulate the effects humans have on the environment. Food for thought.

Since when did saying that I believe that Iran wants to build a nuke make me a right-wing extremist. I mean... WHAT???? How? I don't see the connection.

And no, I am not smarter than the PhDs who study climate change. But I know that it's those PhDs that know how little we actually know, and they are the ones that disproved ALL of the global warming pseudoscience. I am not going against them, but with them.

[Azdgari]

Wow, DGF, you're pretty extremist. I guess I shouldn't generalize that good or bad, but you're nowhere near as independent thinking as I thought. You're as extreme right wing as anyone I've met, barring gay marriage (and abortion?)

Also, are you smarter than all of the PhD's who've dedicated their lives to the studies and so conclusively proven climate as to create a widespread government agency to regulate the effects humans have on the environment. Food for thought.

Since when did saying that I believe that Iran wants to build a nuke make me a right-wing extremist. I mean... WHAT???? How? I don't see the connection.

-almost utter state independence
-tiny govt.
-minimize social services
-global warming is a myth
-call for aggressive action against iran
-call for utter and complete deregulation of everything


You are right wing extremist. ;3

[Regulus]

And no, I am not smarter than the PhDs who study climate change. But I know that it's those PhDs that know how little we actually know, and they are the ones that disproved ALL of the global warming pseudoscience. I am not going against them, but with them.

http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/basics/

http://climate.nasa.gov/keyIndicators/

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/cmb-faq/globalwarming.html

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/scie ... index.html

Yes, all the smart people in the world have clearly proven that global warming is nothing more than a folk tale.