Israel Under Attack?

[Hana701]

You should read the Qur'an Muhammad is quite clear.

What is clear is that you have no idea what you're talking about. Muhammad does not say any of these. Allah does.

Sura 8:12 - "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers"

The correct translation w/ context: [Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."
This is part of a story in which God asked his angels to help the Muslims defeat the disbelievers in a war in which they were greatly outnumbered. It was a command that is no longer relevant because it already happened.

Sura 9:123 - "O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness. And know that Allah is with the righteous."

Out of context quote. This only pertains to when disbelievers and Muslims engage in war.

Bukhari 9.84.57 - "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him."

This is not part of the Quran.
You did not read the Quran as you claim and probably copied these off some evangelical Islamophobic site. Next time, keep your hateful comments to yourself

[Tora]

You should read the Qur'an Muhammad is quite clear.

What is clear is that you have no idea what you're talking about. Muhammad does not say any of these. Allah does.

Sura 8:12 - "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers"

The correct translation w/ context: [Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, "I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip."
This is part of a story in which God asked his angels to help the Muslims defeat the disbelievers in a war in which they were greatly outnumbered. It was a command that is no longer relevant because it already happened.

Sura 9:123 - "O you who have believed, fight those adjacent to you of the disbelievers and let them find in you harshness. And know that Allah is with the righteous."

Out of context quote. This only pertains to when disbelievers and Muslims engage in war.

Bukhari 9.84.57 - "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him."

This is not part of the Quran.
You did not read the Quran as you claim and probably copied these off some evangelical Islamophobic site. Next time, keep your hateful comments to yourself

Enlighten me as to how anything I said was hateful.

[Tora]

Enlighten me as to how anything I said was hateful.

You clearly state that christianity is better than islam... Which is an absurd statement

Absurd? Hardly. It still contains no hate. I do not hate Islam or the people who follow it. I just find it wrong.

[Azdgari]

So perhaps the best metaphor is that religion is like a tool. A hammer can kill a man, or built him a shelter. Religion can drive one to war, or drive one to embark on an aid-giving mission.

So the question is, do you condemn the hammer? Or do you condemn the person who misuses it?

[Shadowfax]

I love how this has turned into a religion debate

[Azdgari]

Now tell me an act that only a strongly religious person would commit. That's right, there are a lot of them.

Hmmm, let's try cutting and pasting...

Do we need religion to do do evil? No. Name me one evil act that could be committed by a normal person of faith, but not by an atheist... There are none.

Religions like Christianity, Islam, Judaism, etc, when interpreted correctly, are inspiring of great love in the world. Unfortunately, in the hands of evil or misguided people, they become an excuse to commit atrocity.

Like a hammer, religion is not inherently good or evil. It's what you do with it that determines its nature.

[Dark Huntress]

OMG! I JUST ASKED A QUESTION! How did we get here O.o

[Tora]

I'll make a nice reply to Woeler when I get home. Since he wrote a book I'll write one too.

[Azdgari]

Until you understand that religion depends upon individual interpretation, you will not be able to argue intelligently about religion. Hear that loud and clear, my friend.

If you close your ears and say "I have read the Bible and Qu'ran and Torah word for word and therefor I understand this religion as it applies to everyone and because it says X and X and X it is evil", you're making yourself seem willfully ignorant.

[Dark Huntress]

*bounces heel of hand off of forehead and mutters "what have I done now"*