Election Day 2012

Who should win?

Obama
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69%
Romney
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21%
Undecided
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10%
 
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby Azdgari » October 30th, 2012, 8:49 pm

Well, it seems you answered largely by confirming what I said, that he hasn't got much in the way of specifics. And isn't capping income tax deduction on very wealthy Americans extremely similar to, well, raising taxes on them? Seems a bit ironic.

Do you find his plan sound?
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby Regulus » October 30th, 2012, 11:35 pm

Obama basically doubled Pell grant funding, and that alone is enough reason to keep him in office. I dunno about you guys, but I kinda like getting paid to go to college.

And before anyone claims it doesn't benefit the economy, consider this. After I graduate, I'll be able to make a lot more money, and I'll have to pay more taxes, which will hopefully go towards educating other people who aren't born with hundreds of thousands of dollars to their name. In the end, it all works out for the economy.

This isn't even including the other hundred issues where I disagree with Romney.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby TheGunner18 » October 31st, 2012, 12:38 am

Just found this study...Pretty interesting stuff about people being predisposed as conservative or liberal...Here's a quote from the report:

[quote]...conservatives’ brains were also found to have a smaller anterior cingulate — the part of the brain responsible for courage and optimism.[/quote]

So there you go! Now you know. ;) Here's the link: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/28/conservatives-fear-center-brain/
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby TheLionPrince » October 31st, 2012, 12:40 am

[quote="TheGunner18"]Just found this study...Pretty interesting stuff about people being predisposed as conservative or liberal...Here's a quote from the report:

[quote]...conservatives’ brains were also found to have a smaller anterior cingulate — the part of the brain responsible for courage and optimism.[/quote]

So there you go! Now you know. ;)[/quote]

Could you post a link to the report? I would love to read it!
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby TheGunner18 » October 31st, 2012, 12:42 am

[quote="TheLionPrince"][quote="TheGunner18"]Just found this study...Pretty interesting stuff about people being predisposed as conservative or liberal...Here's a quote from the report:

[quote]...conservatives’ brains were also found to have a smaller anterior cingulate — the part of the brain responsible for courage and optimism.[/quote]

So there you go! Now you know. ;)[/quote]

Could you post a link to the report? I would love to read it![/quote]

Oops, don't know how I forgot to link it. O_o Well, here it is anyway! http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/12/28/conservatives-fear-center-brain/. I'll also edit it into the other post.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby Azdgari » November 3rd, 2012, 7:57 pm

Three days!
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby TheLionPrince » November 4th, 2012, 6:01 am

[quote="Azdgari"]Well, it seems you answered largely by confirming what I said, that he hasn't got much in the way of specifics. And isn't capping income tax deduction on very wealthy Americans extremely similar to, well, raising taxes on them? Seems a bit ironic.

Do you find his plan sound?[/quote]

Yes, capping the income tax deductions and loopholes is along the lines of raising taxes. And no. I do not find this ironic. President Reagan raised taxes in the Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act (TEFRA) despite being popularly known for his strict conservative fiscal policy for tax cuts for the rich. However, he gets the free pass from conservatives because according to The Free Dictionary, "they remained well below what they were prior to Ronald Reagan's accession to the presidency". On top of that, the act is passed for the very same reason: to close tax deductions.

In the end, Romney's tax policy may not been sound, but if it will make Democrats and liberals shut up about having tax cuts being unpaid for, then more power to Romney if he gets elected. Heck, I would do the same thing if I were in office.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby Woeler » November 4th, 2012, 12:09 pm

I don't know about you guys but in Europe social equality means taxing the rich more and taxing the poor less. You know, so that it's fair? Otherwise you punish the poor for being poor and blame the poor being poor on the poor because they are poor...
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby TheGunner18 » November 4th, 2012, 4:29 pm

Well, in Britain at the moment I'm pretty sure that I heard something about the government removing child benefit for families who earn more than £50,000 ($80,000/€62,000) per year. Hopefully then that can be used on improving education etc. and giving people from a poorer background a better chance at life instead of turning a blind eye to them. I may not like the Conservatives, but at least David Cameron's planning to legalise same-sex marriage by 2015.

He made himself look like a bit of prat when he introduced the pasty tax.

But anyway, this is about America and not Britain.

Perhaps Romney should take a leaf out of Europe's book in terms of equality.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby Azdgari » November 4th, 2012, 9:21 pm

So you don't believe it's ironic that someone who stands on the stump bellowing about lowering taxes across the board actually plans to, essentially, raise taxes?
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