Election Day 2012

Who should win?

Obama
36
69%
Romney
11
21%
Undecided
5
10%
 
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby TheGunner18 » October 24th, 2012, 8:28 pm

So what if France were polled and they're Obama's biggest supporters. Does that mean they shouldn't have been polled at all? Where's the logic in that? And it doesn't mean that there aren't people who support Romney in France...The people would have been selected at random so that the poll was as non-biased as possible.

I would be very, very surprised if the majority of people in a country don't know who the presidential candidate opposed to Obama is. I mean...whoever wins the election will be in power of one of the most powerful economies in the world. I'm pretty sure that people would want to know who could potentially be making the decisions for America that could affect the whole world.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby Azdgari » October 25th, 2012, 1:16 am

Woeler is correct. Iran will not bomb Israel.

Israel has two hundred nuclear warheads, enough to annihilate Iran ten times over. Iran has the capacity to build one, maybe two. All Iran wants is the ability to have a nuclear deterrent. That's basic military tactics.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby TheRoguePrince » October 25th, 2012, 3:53 am

[quote="Azdgari"]Israel has two hundred nuclear warheads, enough to annihilate Iran ten times over.[/quote]
Actually we don't know if Israel has any nuclear weapons. (source) It's widely believed they do possess weapons of mass destruction, but lol, we said the same thing about Iraq, and we all know how that turned out ;)

[quote="Azdgari"]All Iran wants is the ability to have a nuclear deterrent. That's basic military tactics.[/quote]
Aside from the fact that their leaders seem border psychotic, a nuclear Iran would lead to a nuclear arms race across the most unstable region in the world. It would be extremely easy for any of them to give them to the two dozen or so terrorist organizations over there. I mean, lol, the people over there want US blood on their breakfast cereal and chant "Death to America" all the live long day. =/
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby Regulus » October 25th, 2012, 4:18 am

How do we not know if Israel has nukes? They're our only allies on that side of the world, and we seriously don't know what sort of arsenal they have? Do we even know if we have nukes?

Or I just don't know my world history all that well.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby Tora » October 25th, 2012, 4:22 am

[quote="Regulus"] Do we even know if we have nukes?[/quote]Considering that we dropped two atom bombs. We have to have nukes.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby TheRoguePrince » October 25th, 2012, 5:47 pm

[quote="Regulus"]How do we not know if Israel has nukes? They're our only allies on that side of the world, and we seriously don't know what sort of arsenal they have? Do we even know if we have nukes?

Or I just don't know my world history all that well.[/quote]
Officially Israel denies having nukes. Officially the US doesn't know anything about it.

The US also doesn't officially have diplomatic relations with Taiwan, but unofficially it's one of our closest allies. The US and Taipei have buildings in each other capitals that are not officially embassies but function as such.

That's just how politics and diplomacy works.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby Azdgari » October 25th, 2012, 6:39 pm

Actually, TRP, Israel does not deny having nuclear weapons, nor do they confirm it. In fact, if you read the source you posted, nowhere did Israel deny the existence of a nuclear program. They simply stated that they don't want to be the country that incites nuclear warfare in the middle east, ergo, they don't want to fire the first shot.

Generally, it is considered fact that Israel posesses between 75 and 400 operational nuclear warheads. That source is American Federation of Scientists but I'd be happy to supply other scientific sources.

Comparing Israel and Iraq's nuclear capabilities is inappropriate. There is widespread agreed-upon evidence, if not proof, of Israel's nuclear program.
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby Woeler » October 29th, 2012, 6:10 pm

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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby TheGunner18 » October 29th, 2012, 6:30 pm

It's funny...I was watching the behind the scenes video of that ERB and they said that they had part of Romney's rap talking about the fact that unemployment hadn't dropped below 8%...

...Then it dropped below 8% just a couple of weeks before they released the video, so they had to change that part completely XD
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Re: Election Day 2012

Postby TheLionPrince » October 29th, 2012, 9:56 pm

[quote="Azdgari"]Despite being directly pressured on multiple occasions very specifically, Romney could not answer the basic question, "How do you pay for 20% across the board taxes, unasked 2 trillion dollar increase and continued Bush era tax cuts?" LionPrince, you're on your game. Does Romney have any specific plan for this, and why won't he put it out there if he does?[/quote]

Sorry, Azdgari, I did not see this question!

Well, the most recent source concerning Romney's tax plan comes from Forbes:

[quote="Forbes"]He vows to pay for these cuts with offsetting reductions in tax preferences but has not said how. Romney would use only spending cuts and economic growth to achieve long-term deficit reduction. He would not raise taxes by any amount to slow the flow of red ink."[/quote]

Also, from my research, Romney has stated he will pay (or recoup the losses his tax cuts will make if implemented) by closing tax loopholes, and placing a cap on total income tax deductions. Another article from Forbes agrees that doing so, it "would preferentially raise income taxes on the rich, potentially offsetting other changes." Both Business Week and The Tax Policy also state Romney will pay (or recoup the losses) by reducing or eliminating unspecified tax breaks (i.e. loopholes) for the upper-income Americans.

Oddily enough, Romney's own site on how he plans to deal with tax reforms only discusses President Obama's approach to tax reform in the past four years, and lists the marginal tax rates he hopes to reduce and stabilize if elected president. No mention is given as to how he plans to pay for them. However, Business Week reports that Tax Policy Center find Romney's extreme tax cuts while promising to not raise the federal deficit is fiscally impossible.

So, I hope I answered your question.
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